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◆ ''[[Astarion/romance|Romance]]'' | ◆ ''[[Astarion/romance|Romance]]'' | ||
* Agree to sleep with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(starts the romance with the spawn)''{{ref|At the Tiefling celebration, choosing sequence of options "Knowing you, it probably is", -> "Maybe, if you say please", -> "No, it's not happening" brings both {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} and {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}. The equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} approval only, as of game version 4.1.1.6072089}} | * Agree to sleep with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(starts the romance with the spawn)''{{ref|At the Tiefling celebration, choosing sequence of options "Knowing you, it probably is", -> "Maybe, if you say please", -> "No, it's not happening" brings '''both''' {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} and {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}. The equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} approval only, as of game version 4.1.1.6072089}} | ||
:* Offer him your neck during sexual intercourse {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | :* Offer him your neck during sexual intercourse {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | ||
<small>▶ '''''Note:''' Astarion might propose to spend a night together anytime in regular dialogue once his approval rate has come up to 40+, unless you have reached the point of camp celebration first''</small><br> | <small>▶ '''''Note:''' Astarion might propose to spend a night together anytime in regular dialogue once his approval rate has come up to 40+, unless you have reached the point of camp celebration first''</small><br> | ||
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* Tell [[Arabella]] that her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Arabella]] that her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''Romance'' | ◆ ''[[Astarion/romance|Romance]]'' | ||
* In the nighttime cutscene tell Astarion that you care about him, then choose to hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} ''(either option)'' | * In the nighttime cutscene tell Astarion that you care about him, then choose to hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} ''(either option)'' | ||
<small>▶ '''''Note:''' This scene appears EITHER after you defended the spawn from Araj Oblodra's molestations in Moonrise OR after you have killed Yurgir without talking to Araj first. Both these choices advance your relations into partnered stage''</small> | <small>▶ '''''Note:''' This scene appears EITHER after you defended the spawn from Araj Oblodra's molestations in Moonrise OR after you have killed Yurgir without talking to Araj first. Both these choices advance your relations into partnered stage''</small> | ||
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* Ask him what if you just kill him and take everything {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Ask him what if you just kill him and take everything {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''At the [[Iron Throne]] | ◆ ''At the [[Iron Throne]],'' escape the prison with [[Ulder Ravengard]] alive. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''At [[Flymm Cargo]] | ◆ ''At [[Flymm Cargo]],'' after returning from the [[Iron Throne]], surrender [[Redhammer]] to [[Allandra Grey]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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◎ '''The [[House of Hope]]'''<br> | ◎ '''The [[House of Hope]]'''<br> | ||
◆ ''Speaking to [[Hope | ◆ ''Speaking to [[Hope]] or to her spirit:'' | ||
* Upon arriving to the House, when her projection flickers, say the last thing you needed was a mad apparition {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Continue the dialogue, then tell her she’s mad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Continue the dialogue, then tell her she’s mad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When she says she needs you to ask a single question, answer you won’t tell her anything {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When she says she needs you to ask a single question, answer you won’t tell her anything {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* In front of the [[House_of_Hope#Archive|Archive]], say she is as helpful as a blunt dagger {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* After freeing Hope from her chains, say you barely stand to look at her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* After defeating [[Raphael]], if [[Korrilla]] was knocked out, tell Hope you should have killed her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Say Korrilla didn’t deserve to die {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Say | |||
◆ | ◆ Talking to the [[Archivist]], ask whether he'd like you to break bits of him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Works regardless you talk about your contract or the [[Orphic Hammer]]; Requires {{Ability check|Intimidation|25}})'' | ||
◆ ''In the [[House_of_Hope#Boudoir|Boudoir]]:'' | ◆ ''In the [[House_of_Hope#Boudoir|Boudoir]]:'' | ||
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◆ ''If Oskar Fevras '''was''' saved in Act One and the estate is now haunted'': | ◆ ''If Oskar Fevras '''was''' saved in Act One and the estate is now haunted'': | ||
* After initial fight with [[Poltergeist]]s, speak to [[Firellia Jannath|Lady Jannath]] and say you are not one of her servants to order you around {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After initial fight with [[Poltergeist]]s, speak to [[Firellia Jannath|Lady Jannath]] and say you are not one of her servants to order you around {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After you have dealt with [[Echo of a Lost Love|Kerry Evenfield’s ghost]], speak to | * After you have dealt with [[Echo of a Lost Love|Kerry Evenfield’s ghost]], speak to Jannath and Oskar and call their cooing ''"saccharine nonsense"'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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◆ ''Talking to [[Havkelaag]]:'' | ◆ ''Talking to [[Havkelaag]]:'' | ||
* Sell him the [[Githyanki Egg]] that you have obtained in the [[Creche Y'llek]] | * Sell him the [[Githyanki Egg]] that you have obtained in the [[Creche Y'llek]] OR Donate it for free {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
◆ ''Talking to [[Ptaris]]:''<br> | ◆ ''Talking to [[Ptaris]]:''<br> | ||
<small>▶ '''''Note:''' | <small>▶ '''''Note:''' Available only if you have sold the egg from the Creche Y’llek to [[Lady Esther]] in [[Act One]]''</small> | ||
* When Ptaris asks you whether you are good or bad person, answer that you are good at being bad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When Ptaris asks you whether you are good or bad person, answer that you are good at being bad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, use class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''Speaking to [[Omeluum]] after you have rescued it from the [[Iron Throne]]:'' | ◆ ''Speaking to [[Omeluum]] after you have rescued it from the [[Iron Throne]]:'' | ||
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◎ '''The [[Sorcerous Sundries]]'''<br> | ◎ '''The [[Sorcerous Sundries]]'''<br> | ||
◆ ''Talking to [[Aradin Beno|Aradin]] near the entrance:'' | ◆ ''Talking to [[Aradin Beno|Aradin]] near the entrance:'' | ||
* Successfully deceive him, saying you haven’t found the [[Aylin|Nightsong]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Successfully {{Skill|Deception|deceive}} him, saying you haven’t found the [[Aylin|Nightsong]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If you let slip to Aradin that you’ve found the Nightsong, tell him that she’s immortal and tough {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If you let slip to Aradin that you’ve found the Nightsong, tell him that she’s immortal and tough {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Deceive Aradin, saying that you have let the Nightsong go {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Deceive Aradin, saying that you have let the Nightsong go {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Take Zanner Toobin’s side and tell Wulbren you won’t let hurt them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Wulbren and other Ironhands except Barcus become hostile)'' | * Take Zanner Toobin’s side and tell Wulbren you won’t let hurt them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Wulbren and other Ironhands except Barcus become hostile)'' | ||
** OR, Convince Wulbren to let the Gondians go away ''(Requires {{Ability check|Persuasion|20}})'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Convince Wulbren to let the Gondians go away ''(Requires {{Ability check|Persuasion|20}})'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' A {{Race|Deep Gnome}}, a Good {{Class|Cleric}}, a {{Class|Oath of Devotion|Devotion Paladin}} will have a unique line here and a {{Ability check||18}} instead of basic one. {{Race|Deep Gnome}} characters roll {{Skill|Performance}} instead of {{Skill|Persuasion}}'' | <small>▶ '''''Note:''' A {{Race|Deep Gnome}}, a Good {{Class|Cleric}}, a {{Class|Oath of Devotion|Devotion Paladin}} will have a unique line here and a {{Ability check||18}} instead of basic one. {{Race|Deep Gnome}} characters roll {{Skill|Performance}} instead of {{Skill|Persuasion}}''</small> | ||
◆ ''Talking to [[Barcus Wroot]] after resolving the conflict:'' | ◆ ''Talking to [[Barcus Wroot]] after resolving the conflict:'' | ||
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◎ '''Other locations in Lower City''' | ◎ '''Other locations in Lower City''' | ||
◆ ''In the [[Bloomridge Park]] | ◆ ''In the [[Bloomridge Park]],'' speaking to [[Albert]], call him a quitter and tell to get his [[Sparky|dog]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''At the [[Chromatic Scale]] | ◆ ''At the [[Chromatic Scale]],'' playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, discuss with [[Thomas C. Quirkilious]] the benefits of using lute strings made of ''worg'' hair {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''At the [[Counting House]] | ◆ ''At the [[Counting House]],'' bargain with [[Rakath Glitterbeard]] to return him less money than had been stolen {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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''At [[Elerrathin's Home]]:'' | ''At [[Elerrathin's Home]]:'' | ||
* When speaking to [[Rion]] for the first time, tell her that everyone's going to die. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} --> | * When speaking to [[Rion]] for the first time, tell her that everyone's going to die. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} --> | ||
◆ ''At [[Flymm's Cobblers]] | ◆ ''At [[Flymm's Cobblers]],'' talking to [[Sally Flymm]], choose to "put her out of her misery" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Sally and [[Dravo Flymm|Dravo]] turn hostile to the party)'' | ||
◆ ''At the Flaming Fist cordon near the Upper City gate | ◆ ''At the Flaming Fist cordon {{coords|-195|-15}} near the [[Upper City]] gate,'' choose to turn back when the [[Emperor]] warns you about becoming a thrall {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
<small>▶''''' Note:''' This dialogue will occur if you come close to the gate without having all three [[Netherstone]]s''</small> | |||
<small>▶''''' Note:''' This dialogue will occur if you come close to the gate without having all three | |||
◆ ''In the [[Lower City Sewers]]:'' | ◆ ''In the [[Lower City Sewers]]:'' | ||
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:* OR Answer Sarevok that you didn’t kill this person, but you will kill him instead {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | :* OR Answer Sarevok that you didn’t kill this person, but you will kill him instead {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Agree to sacrifice [[Valeria]] in Bhaal’s name, on Sarevok’s order {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree to sacrifice [[Valeria]] in Bhaal’s name, on Sarevok’s order {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
<small>▶''''' Note:''' {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} characters will have four different options here, all bringing | <small>▶''''' Note:''' {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} characters will have four different options here, all bringing approval''</small> | ||
◆ ''After becoming an [[Bhaal#Unholy_Assassins|Unholy Assassin]]:'' | ◆ ''After becoming an [[Bhaal#Unholy_Assassins|Unholy Assassin]]:'' | ||
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◎ '''[[Campsite|Camp/Conversations | ◎ '''[[Campsite|Camp]]/Conversations'''<br> | ||
◆ ''After the spawn assault:'' | ◆ ''After the spawn assault:'' | ||
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* Agree that it doesn't matter whether the other spawn have to die in the Rite. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree that it doesn't matter whether the other spawn have to die in the Rite. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
◆ ''Romance'' <br> | ◆ ''[[Astarion/romance|Romance]]'' <br> | ||
''If Astarion has completed the [[The_Pale_Elf#Outcomes|Rite of Profane Ascension]]'' | ''If Astarion has completed the [[The_Pale_Elf#Outcomes|Rite of Profane Ascension]]'' | ||
* Agree to become his spawn AND to bed with him ''"one last time, for the road"''. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * Agree to become his spawn AND to bed with him ''"one last time, for the road"''. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
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◆ ''Companions'' | ◆ ''Companions'' | ||
* When | * When [[Jaheira]] scolds [[Minsc]] after his recruitment, tell her that she could have lost the trail of the cult {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** {{Skill|Deception|Deceive}} [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ** {{Skill|Deception|Deceive}} [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)'' | ||
** {{Skill|Persuasion|Persuade}} or {{Skill|Intimidation|intimidate}} them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned about the Rite yet)''. | ** {{Skill|Persuasion|Persuade}} or {{Skill|Intimidation|intimidate}} them to stand against Cazador {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you haven't learned about the Rite yet)''. | ||
* In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], when [[Sebastian]] asks what | * In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], when [[Sebastian]] asks what will happen to them, say you'll set them free, OR ask if he would be able to control his hunger. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Successfully keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * Successfully keep Astarion from performing the Rite of Profane Ascension. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
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Revision as of 07:56, 31 December 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage)
- "The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)
Approval
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One
Act Two
Act Three
Disapproval
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.
Act One
Act Two
Act Three
Lower City
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Notes
- ↑ At the Tiefling celebration, choosing sequence of options "Knowing you, it probably is", -> "Maybe, if you say please", -> "No, it's not happening" brings both +5 and -1. The equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives -1 approval only, as of game version 4.1.1.6072089