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Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is [[inspiration|inspired]] when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his [[approval]], however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need. | ||
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way. | Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way. | ||
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower [[Astarion]]'s [[Approval]]. | The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower [[Astarion]]'s [[Approval]]. | ||
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Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to [[the Dark Urge]] origin. He will only say these once: | Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to [[the Dark Urge]] origin. He will only say these once: | ||
*"You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting) | *"You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting) | ||
*"My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (after killing Isobel) | *"My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang) | ||
*"Come to kill me again, darling?" ( | *"My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel) | ||
*"Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel) | |||
*"Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (after the player | *"Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage) | ||
"The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (when romanced, after | *"The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)}} | ||
== Approval == | == Approval == | ||
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* After entering the [[Sunlit Wetlands]], break the illusion by any available means, then say 'BAA' at the Redcaps when you speak to them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(works twice)'' | * After entering the [[Sunlit Wetlands]], break the illusion by any available means, then say 'BAA' at the Redcaps when you speak to them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(works twice)'' | ||
* Tell [[Auntie Ethel]] about the tadpole (if you haven't done so in the grove). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Auntie Ethel]] about the tadpole (if you haven't done so in the grove). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Chasing after [[Auntie Ethel|Ethel]] in her lair, speak to [[Lorin]] and roar at him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** When | * [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] the Gnarled Door to let you in {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When Auntie Ethel surrenders, let her go in exchange for [[Auntie Ethel's Hair|fey hair]], with or without [[Mayrina]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | |||
* If you killed Ethel: | |||
** If spared [[Mask of Regret (Overgrown Tunnel)|Mask of Regret]], speak to the latter afterwards and choose to attack her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Playing as an '''evil''' {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Paladin}}, speak to [[Lorin]] again and tell him that it would be ''delightful'' to butcher everyone {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Playing as a {{Race|Duergar}}, take the [[Petrified (Condition)|Petrification]] off [[Efrin]] and laugh at him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, when he asks to examine him, refuse to do it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Let [[Astarion]] kill [[Gandrel]], if you already know he's a vampire. {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | * Let [[Astarion]] kill [[Gandrel]], if you already know he's a vampire. {{Approval|Astarion|+10}} | ||
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* Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her and recruit Karlach. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | * Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll]]'s confrontation with her and recruit Karlach. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | ||
* At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(triggers a fight with 'Tyrians')'' | * At the tollhouse, tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(triggers a fight with 'Tyrians')'' | ||
* Talk with '''non-bloated''' [[Hyena]] via [[Speak with Animals]] and pass the [[Deception]] check to convince her that you are a god in mortal flesh {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Flind]] to attack the survivors in the cave instead of you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR/THEN order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * OR/THEN order Flind to attack other gnolls. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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▶ '''''Note:''' These options '''are not mutually exclusive''' and can be used one after another subsequently, in given order, which allows to gain all three points'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' These options '''are not mutually exclusive''' and can be used one after another subsequently, in given order, which allows to gain all three points'' | ||
* Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Rugan]] that you are here for the cargo, not to rescue him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Save Rugan, then tell him to give the cargo to you, using [[Intimidation]] or provoking a fight {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** If you fail to [[Intimidation|intimidate]] Rugan into surrendering the cargo to you, say you can harm him no less worse than gnolls would have {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(makes him hostile)'' | |||
'''[[Waukeen's Rest]]''' | |||
* Tell Councellor [[Florrick]] that she needs to find someone else to rescue [[Duke Ravengard]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Leave [[Benryn]] to die under the wreckage {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** If you saved Benryn, tell him you'll keep the dowry as a payment for his saving {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | '''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | ||
* Kill [[Rugan]] on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Kill [[Rugan]] on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other [[ | ** Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other [[Zhentarim]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After purchasing [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]], speak to the artist and call him a slave twice {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After purchasing [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]], speak to the artist and call him a slave twice {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Underdark]]''' | '''[[Underdark]]''' | ||
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* After killing [[Nere]], tell [[Brithvar]] either that you think slaves are a valuable asset, OR tell him you won't interfere. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After killing [[Nere]], tell [[Brithvar]] either that you think slaves are a valuable asset, OR tell him you won't interfere. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After defeating [[Nere]], ask [[Brithvar]] about the gnome slaves and tell him that they are a valuable asset. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After defeating [[Nere]], ask [[Brithvar]] about the gnome slaves and tell him that they are a valuable asset. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Mountain Pass]]''' | |||
* Attack [[Ellyka]] near the point of encounter with githyanki squad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Being [[Disguise Self|disguised]] as a gith, provoke her to attack you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Voss]], pass the [[Arcana]] check to find out he's trying to [[Detect Thoughts]] and then attack him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | '''[[Crèche Y'llek]]''' | ||
*Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Gish Far'aag]] that [[Voss]] sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of Vlaakith and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Gish Far'aag]] that [[Voss]] sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of Vlaakith and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Vandalise the portrait of [[Vlaakith]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that if he gives you the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]] you'll sell it at best price OR make yourself an omelette (''either choise brings {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} and immediately starts the fight with [[Varsh Ko'kuu|Ko'kuu]] and hatchery guards'') | * Tell [[Varsh Ko'kuu]] that if he gives you the [[Githyanki Egg|githyanki egg]] you'll sell it at best price OR make yourself an omelette (''either choise brings {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} and immediately starts the fight with [[Varsh Ko'kuu|Ko'kuu]] and hatchery guards'') | ||
''In the training room:'' | ''In the training room:'' | ||
* Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger | * Offer to fight [[Youth Varrl]] when [[Sa'varsh Kethk]] asks for a challenger, and then indeed kill him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}. | ||
''At the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ''At the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ||
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'''[[Rivington]]'''<br> | '''[[Rivington]]'''<br> | ||
''Talking to [[Yenna]]:'' | ''Talking to [[Yenna]]:'' | ||
* | * Offer her help: | ||
* | ** Give some coin OR some food {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option, giving food available for all characters except [[Druid]])'' | ||
* | ** OR Suggest to find a guard for her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(available for all characters except [[Cleric]])'' | ||
* | ** Playing as a [[Druid]], conjure some berries and herbs for her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as a [[Cleric]] or a [[Monk]], suggest to find the nearest temple {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Playing as a [[Ranger]], suggest to track her mother down {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' Offering Yenna food OR promising to look for her mum '''after''' using class-based [[Ranger]] line brings another {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} point'' | |||
* Be rude to the girl: | |||
** Ask where did she last see her, then say her mother is probably dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Tell Yenna to get lost. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''At the [[Gur Camp]]:'' | ''At the [[Gur Camp]]:'' | ||
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* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], say you would kill someone close to you without hesitation.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], say you would kill someone close to you without hesitation.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Lae'zel]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Lae'zel]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)'' | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Dying Stone Lord Thug]], say that you'll enjoy watching him die slowly {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | :* OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], say that you have already done it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(This option is available if you have killed either [[Isobel]] or your partner in [[Act Two]] on demand of your [[Sceleritas Fel|Urge]])'' | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Dying Stone Lord Thug]]: | |||
* Playing as an Evil [[Cleric]], choose to make him suffer {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], choose to prod his wound OR to spin the blade {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
* If you succeeded a passive {{Ability check|Perception|20}}, choose to make him scream {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], say that you'll enjoy watching him die slowly {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''At the [[Open Hand Temple]]:'' | ''At the [[Open Hand Temple]]:'' | ||
* | * Talking to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]], say that if [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] had been pickier, he might still be alive.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
'''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | '''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | ||
* At the entrance, convince [[Klaus]] to let you in, bribing him, using [[Persuasion]], [[Intimidation]], [[Deception]] or any class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], say you ''used to'' be a murderer {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Playing as | ** OR, Playing as an [[The Archfey|Archfey Warlock]], first say that you never pass up a faerie mischief {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | * Speaking with [[Zara]] the mummy, say you don't understand her, and then mime her grunting {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Dealing with [[Akabi]] the djinni:'' | |||
* | * Tell him that he is VERY LOUD. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Play the game and accuse the djinni of rigging the wheel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** If successful, play again and try to distract Akabi, letting out a loud fart {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a [[Bard]], ask him about his adventures {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Provoke him to transform you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* After returning from jungle, talk to the djinni again and say you have had much fun OR promise he will pay for it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' | ''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' | ||
* First question: ★'When he's elbow deep in gore' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * First question: ★'When he's elbow deep in gore' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Third question: ★'Breaking a nail' {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} OR 'Most things' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Third question: ★'Breaking a nail' {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} OR 'Most things' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The ★ sign here marks the answers considered 'correct' for the purposes of the test.'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' The ★ sign here marks the answers considered 'correct' for the purposes of the test.'' | ||
* Talking to [[Boney]] the mephit, call his wife [[Stoney]] magnificent {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Note that she's a lot bigger than himself {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a [[Druid]], say they both are magnificent {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Say she's not your type {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Dealing with [[Popper]] the kobold trader:'' | |||
* Grab [[Clown's Severed Hand|Dribbles's' hand]] from his counter, and then: | |||
** [[Persuasion|Persuade]] him to give you the hand for free {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] him to let you go with the hand {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Use [[Deception]] to make him lower the price {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' Class-based [[Deception]] lines for [[Wizard]], [[Warlock]] or [[Sorcerer]] '''do not''' give approval'' {{verify}} <br> | |||
''Dealing with caged beasts:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Shadow-Whiskers]] with {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, tell her to murder whoever she wants OR say "Sure thing, pussycat".{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** Without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, choose the line "Kill them all, kitty". {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Crimson]], give him some meat OR promise to bring it later (if you don't have any in inventory) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** After defeating false [[Dribbles]], talk to Crimson again and scold the circus staff for starving him OR propose to open his cage up.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
''Watching [[Dribbles the Clown|Dribbles's]] show:'' | |||
* Say "What a corny joke" OR yell "Boo! Get off the stage!" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as a [[Bard]], interrupt him with your own pun {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Volunteer any companion to the stage as Dribbles's assistant, '''except Astarion himself''' and Minsc {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Then insist on your choice and cheer them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(including unique lines for Minthara and Jaheira)'' | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' If you volunteer [[Minsc]] to the stage, you'll get {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} instead of [+1] each time'' | |||
:* OR Choose to cross your arms and glare {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
:* OR Just answer "No." {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If going on stage yourself, suggest any available explanation on why you're special, '''except''' "something about my brain" '''and''' unique line for [[The Dark Urge]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Lucretious]]:'' | |||
* After defeating false [[Dribbles]], tell her that killing clowns is a rare treat {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* When Lucretious asks you to find real Dribbles, answer that you are expensive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Then say that Dribbles is probably dead now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, say it was pleasure to meet her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask whether she is hiring personnel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Elsewhere:'' | '''Elsewhere in Rivington:''' | ||
* Agree to chase refugees out from [[Arfur's Mansion]] for half-price, and punch [[Zenovia Dawg]] when she tries to extort full sum from you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires failing Persuasion roll against her first)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], offer [[Arfur Gregorio]] to chase them out for free and explain that you just enjoy brutalizing the poor {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Saer Grotpoll]] that his own accent sounds more Rivingtonian than Baldurian {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | '''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | ||
* Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At [[Fraygo's Flophouse]], tell [[Adventurer Drim]] that the word | * At [[Fraygo's Flophouse]], tell [[Drim|Adventurer Drim]] that the word "adventurer" means nothing anymore. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Pass the [[Investigation]] check to find [[Ffion Goldgrind|Ffion's]] body in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]]{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Pass the [[Investigation]] check to find [[Ffion Goldgrind|Ffion's]] body in [[Fraygo's Flophouse]]{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At [[Carm's Garm]], when [[Naaber]] pretends to be a dog, say "But nobody likes Naaber". {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At [[Carm's Garm]], when [[Naaber]] pretends to be a dog, say "But nobody likes Naaber". {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' It may take several sequential attempts to speak with Naaber to get to this dialogue.'' | |||
* At [[The Velveteen Elixir]], talking to [[Stylin' Horst]], choose lines about "heady top notes" OR "burning rothé shit" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
* Get into Wyrm's Rock Fortress by either: showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]], showing [[Lower City Pass]] obtained from [[Valeria]], using [[Urgent Report for Duke Ravengard|Nashkellan's report]], bribing [[Elin|Blaze Elin]] (''{{Ability check|Persuasion|25}} required''), or passing any of class-based checks. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Get into Wyrm's Rock Fortress by either: showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]], showing [[Lower City Pass]] obtained from [[Valeria]], using [[Urgent Report for Duke Ravengard|Nashkellan's report]], bribing [[Elin|Blaze Elin]] (''{{Ability check|Persuasion|25}} required''), or passing any of class-based checks. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Sharess' Caress]]''' | '''[[Sharess' Caress]]''' | ||
* When he expresses discomfort with the | * When trying to hire both [[Sorn Orlith]] and [[Nym Orlith]]: | ||
** Tell Astarion you would never ask such a thing from him, when he expresses discomfort with the idea. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(This option appears only if you are partnered with the spawn, but the third romance scene hasn't occured yet)'' | |||
** Agree to invite [[Halsin]], too, if the druid is in the party {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Agree to sleep with Astarion on the drow twins' offer, if you haven't slept with him earlier in the walkthrough {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Sauceman Chorizo]] that you can show him pleasures his husband never could. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Sauceman Chorizo]] that you can show him pleasures his husband never could. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Pass the [[Steel Watcher]] that confronts you at the coronation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Pass the [[Steel Watcher]] that confronts you at the coronation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶''''' Note:''' This dialogue appears only if Karlach '''is not''' in the party'' | ▶''''' Note:''' This dialogue appears only if Karlach '''is not''' in the party'' | ||
* Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], when [[Gortash]] explains your previous dealings: | |||
** Say that you'll make Orin pay for taking your place {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Reply that you don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Agree to become allies with [[Gortash]] and slay [[Orin]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree to become allies with [[Gortash]] and slay [[Orin]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Refuse to make an alliance with him and confirm your decision {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], say that you'll possess both the brain and the crown and ''won't share'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Agree to witness the ceremony of [[Gortash|Gortash's]] ordain, saying "All right", OR "I'd never dream of missing it", OR "Let's get over" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | * Agree to witness the ceremony of [[Gortash|Gortash's]] ordain, saying "All right", OR "I'd never dream of missing it", OR "Let's get over" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* After killing [[Orin]], speak to [[Gortash]] and say you two can be allies, but you'll keep Ketheric's and Orin's [[Netherstone]]s {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'' | ''Talking to [[Duke Ravengard]] after the coronation:'' | ||
* Ask | * Ask him whether the "new dawn" is what they call tyranny now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell the Duke that [[Florrick]] sent you, then probe Ravengard's mind to discover councellor's location and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell the Duke that [[Florrick]] sent you, then probe Ravengard's mind to discover councellor's location, and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* <u>Escort</u> [[Counsellor Florrick]] out of the [[Wyrm's Rock Prison]] | |||
'''[[Lower City]]''' | '''[[Lower City]]''' | ||
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'''[[The Risen Road]]''' | '''[[The Risen Road]]''' | ||
* Agree to fight the gnolls to save [[Rugan]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Agree to fight the gnolls to save [[Rugan]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Waukeen's Rest]]''' | |||
* Find and return [[Benryn]] the dowry {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | '''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]''' | ||
* | * Purchase [[Oskar Fevras]] from [[Brem]] for the price he asks initially {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Give [[Oskar Fevras]] additional 200 gold after freeing him {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Give [[Oskar Fevras]] additional 200 gold after freeing him {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, say you'll see it becomes the greatest ''ghaik''-slayer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Githyanki}}, say you'll see it becomes the greatest ''ghaik''-slayer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''In the training room:'' | ''In the training room:'' | ||
* | * Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, save [[Youth Varrl]] by whatever means, and then tell him: | ||
** That capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** That capacity for mercy is what separates us from feral beasts {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR That his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR That his teacher obviously failed to instill discipline. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''In the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ''In the captain's quarters and Inquisitor's chamber:'' | ||
* When speaking with [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]], surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to her {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When speaking with [[Kith'rak Therezzyn]], surrender the [[Mysterious Artefact]] to her {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Talking to [[Vlaakith]], say you're a friend who brought the artefact to her {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
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* Refuse when he offers to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Refuse when he offers to sleep with him. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If you agreed, turning him down during any part of the romance cutscene itself '''does not''' bring any disapproval'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' If you agreed, turning him down during any part of the romance cutscene itself '''does not''' bring any disapproval'' | ||
* If you have spent a night with [[Lae'zel]], when Astarion wants to gossip about it, answer that it's none of his business. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When he tries to feel through his scars with fingers, offer your help, then mock him about 'cleric of Gond' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | * Allow [[Volo]] to follow through with his attempt to remove the parasite | ||
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'''[[Open Hand Temple]]''' | '''[[Open Hand Temple]]''' | ||
* | * Talk to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]] and say that their god would be proud of [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a [[Monk]], say that offering alms to those in need is a sign of noble soul {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* On the temple roof, tell [[Tara]] to stop eating the carrier pigeons. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * On the temple roof, tell [[Tara]] to stop eating the carrier pigeons. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | '''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | ||
* | * Dealing with [[Akabi]] the djinni, successfully catch him on rigging the wheel, but apologise and say you were mistaken {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' (amounts {{verify}}) | |||
* First question: 'He hasn't ever been happy' OR 'Right now' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(either)'' | |||
* Second question: ★ 'Freedom' OR 'Tasty rat' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(either)'' | |||
* Third question: 'Wooden sticks' OR ★ 'Feeling a slave' {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(either)'' | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' The ★ sign here marks the answers considered 'correct' for the purposes of the test, even if they bring disapproval.'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' The ★ sign here marks the answers considered 'correct' for the purposes of the test, even if they bring disapproval.'' | ||
''Dealing with [[Popper]] the kobold trader:'' | |||
* Playing as a [[Paladin]] or a [[Cleric]], tell him that graverobbing is a profane act {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
** If talking to Popper after defeating false [[Dribbles]], say that offering 'treatoes' now is a bit callous. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Talk to [[Lucretious]] before approaching Dribbles's show (when she's training up skeletons) and tell her that she is being a little harsh {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
''Dealing with caged beasts:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Shadow-Whiskers]] with {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, note that her cage looks comfy. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
** Break the lock on her cage {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(works with or without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}})'' | |||
* Talking to [[Crimson]], refuse to feed him via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} or mock him for being hungry (without the spell) {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** After defeating false [[Dribbles]], talk to Crimson again and say you'd have killed him before he hurts anyone else {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Volunteer Astarion to the stage as an assistant to [[Dribbles]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}, and then cheer him, telling "Go on!" {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}. | |||
''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises:'' | ''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises:'' | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that one can't just kill innocent people {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that one can't just kill innocent people {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR Tell her that both sides need a lesson {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' These are lines for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any of other Origins, except [[Dark Urge]], these lines might have unique formulation'' | |||
** OR Tell her that you're going to report to the commanding officer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR Tell her that you're going to report to the commanding officer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell her that mindless slaughter is not the answer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell her that mindless slaughter is not the answer {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], propose to kill and kill again {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], propose to kill and kill again {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
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* Playing as the [[Dark Urge]], resist the yearn to tear the [[Strange Ox]] apart. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Playing as the [[Dark Urge]], resist the yearn to tear the [[Strange Ox]] apart. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate to the Wyrm's Crossing. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate to the Wyrm's Crossing. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | |||
* When trying to hire both [[Sorn Orlith]] and [[Nym Orlith]]: | |||
** Refuse to invite [[Halsin]], too, if the druid is in the party {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
** Refuse to sleep with Astarion on the drow twins' offer, if you haven't slept with him earlier in the walkthrough {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]''' | '''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]''' | ||
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* When you spot [[Fist Reynash]] trying to open a chest, give him 300 gold to take the ferry {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When you spot [[Fist Reynash]] trying to open a chest, give him 300 gold to take the ferry {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Bakshi|Manip Bakshi]] afterwards, (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), let him arrest you {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Speaking to [[Bakshi|Manip Bakshi]] afterwards, (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), let him arrest you {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Gortash]] after killing [[Orin]], surrender two your [[Netherstone]]s to him {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
'''[[Lower City]]'''<br> | '''[[Lower City]]'''<br> | ||
* At the [[Elfsong Tavern]], agree to follow the trial of the murders for [[Devella Fountainhead]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * At the [[Elfsong Tavern]], agree to follow the trial of the murders for [[Devella Fountainhead]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
** Agree to Devella's request to warn the other potential murder victims. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ** Agree to Devella's request to warn the other potential murder victims. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
▶ ''Note: If Devella has already left the Elfsong, this dialogue (with all approval points) may trigger at the [[Facemaker's Boutique]]'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' If Devella has already left the Elfsong, this dialogue (with all approval points) may trigger at the [[Facemaker's Boutique]]'' | ||
* At the [[Facemaker's Boutique]], interrupt [[Dolor]]'s assassination attempt saying "Stop right there!". {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * At the [[Facemaker's Boutique]], interrupt [[Dolor]]'s assassination attempt saying "Stop right there!". {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
* In [[Ramazith's Tower]], side with [[Dame Aylin]] against [[Lorroakan]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * In [[Ramazith's Tower]], side with [[Dame Aylin]] against [[Lorroakan]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
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'''Camp/Conversations'''<br> | '''Camp/Conversations'''<br> | ||
''The night | ''The night assault of other Cazador's spawn:'' | ||
* When [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]] appear at the camp at night, tell them that they can take Astarion to [[Cazador]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * When [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]] appear at the camp at night, tell them that they can take Astarion to [[Cazador]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
**During the conversation with [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]] persuade Astarion by asking him if he has no heart. | |||
** After the fight, fail to persuade Astarion that you were only teasing him.{{Approval|Astarion|-3}} ''(If you're romancing Astarion, he will break the relationship)'' | ** After the fight, fail to persuade Astarion that you were only teasing him.{{Approval|Astarion|-3}} ''(If you're romancing Astarion, he will break the relationship)'' | ||
* After the fight, berate Astarion for deceiving the other spawn about their part in the Rite of Profane Ascension. {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} | * After the fight, berate Astarion for deceiving the other spawn about their part in the Rite of Profane Ascension. {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} |
Latest revision as of 16:49, 13 November 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage)
- "The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.