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''Talking to [[Yenna]]:'' | ''Talking to [[Yenna]]:'' | ||
* Offer to | * Offer her help: | ||
* | ** Give some coin OR some food {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option, giving food available for all characters except [[Druid]])'' | ||
** OR Suggest to find a guard for her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(available for all characters except [[Cleric]])'' | |||
** Playing as a [[Druid]], conjure some berries and herbs for her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Playing as a [[Cleric]] or a [[Monk]], suggest to find the nearest temple {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Playing as a [[Ranger]], suggest to track her mother down {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' Offering Yenna food OR promising to look for her mum '''after''' using class-based [[Ranger]] line brings another {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} point'' | |||
''At the [[Open Hand Temple]]:'' | ''At the [[Open Hand Temple]]:'' | ||
* Tell [[Yannis]] she should worry more about the temple's safety than about [[Brilgor]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask her why Brilgor is a convenient target, and then advise to stick to being a place of worship instead of helping refugees {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]], say that if [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] had been pickier, he might still be alive.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Refuse to bear the madness curse instilled by [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk's Manifestation]]. ''(starts a fight with crypt corpses)''{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Refuse to bear the madness curse instilled by [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk's Manifestation]]. ''(starts a fight with crypt corpses)''{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk's Manifestation]] madness. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+3}} | ** OR Agree to bear the curse and withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk's Manifestation]] madness. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+3}} | ||
''At the [[Sword Coast Couriers]]:'' | ''At the [[Sword Coast Couriers]]:'' | ||
* Get more money out of [[Danzo Arkwright]] in return for the Zhentarim letters, using | * Get more money out of [[Danzo Arkwright]] in return for the Zhentarim letters, using [[Persuasion]] or [[Intimidation]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* | * Report to [[Commander Lightfeather]] that his soldiers were eaten by a flying cat {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as [[Gale]] origin, tell him that the enemy responsible is your ''tressym'' {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''In the kennels:'' | ''In the kennels:'' | ||
* Say "Woof" to [[Angry Mar'hyah]] twice.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Say "Woof" to [[Angry Mar'hyah]] twice.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Make [[Angry Mar'hyah]] to let you keep [[Scratch]], using [[Persuasion]], [[Intimidation]] or class-based [[Druid]], [[Fighter]] or [[Paladin]] options. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Then force Mar'hyah to leave the kennels via [[Deception]] or [[Intimidation]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** Then force Mar'hyah to leave the kennels via [[Deception]] or [[Intimidation]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises: | ''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises: | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], tell her you would ''never'' kill someone you cared about. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Karlach]] or [[Wyll]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 3)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell her you do all you can to keep your loved ones safe from your blade {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that one can't just kill innocent people {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that one can't just kill innocent people {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This line goes for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any other Origin, except [[Dark Urge]], it might have unique formulation'' | |||
** OR Tell her that you're going to report to the commanding officer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR Tell her that you're going to report to the commanding officer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell her that mindless slaughter is not the answer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], tell her that mindless slaughter is not the answer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[ | * If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Dying Stone Lord Thug]], succeed a passive {{Ability check|Perception|20}}, and then: | ||
* Say you'll stay with him until the end {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you'll make it quick {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], resist the urge to torment him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''In the [[Circus of the Last Days]]:''' | '''In the [[Circus of the Last Days]]:''' | ||
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** OR Just answer "No." {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR Just answer "No." {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* If going on stage yourself, suggest any available explanation on why you're special, '''except''' "something about my brain" '''and''' unique line for [[The Dark Urge]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * If going on stage yourself, suggest any available explanation on why you're special, '''except''' "something about my brain" '''and''' unique line for [[The Dark Urge]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Lucretious]]:'' | |||
* After defeating false [[Dribbles]], tell her that killing clowns is a rare treat {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Lucretious asks you to find real Dribbles, answer that you are expensive {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Then say that Dribbles is probably dead now {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When you deliver her Dribbles's remains, say it was pleasure to meet her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask whether she is hiring personnel {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in Rivington:'' | |||
''Elsewhere:'' | |||
*<u> Tell</u> [[Wulbren]] you'll take the runepowder bomb but only use it as a last resort. | *<u> Tell</u> [[Wulbren]] you'll take the runepowder bomb but only use it as a last resort. | ||
* Playing as a [[Cleric]], tell [[Nayzeem|Tinker Nayzeem]] that Divine works in mysterious ways. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Near [[Requisitioned Barn]], donate some gold to [[Manip Nestor]].{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Mattis]] outside the barn, tell him to watch himself because [[Baldur's Gate]] is big and dangerous. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if tiefling kids survived in Acts One and Two'' | |||
* Talk to [[Rowan|Fist Rowan]] outside, and when he asks you to give him "one good reason", answer "Barn". {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if Orin '''is not''' impersonating Rowan'' | |||
'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | '''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]''' | ||
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▶ '''''Note:''' It may take several sequential attempts to speak with Naaber to get to this dialogue.'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' It may take several sequential attempts to speak with Naaber to get to this dialogue.'' | ||
* At [[The Velveteen Elixir]], talking to [[Stylin' Horst]], choose lines about "heady top notes" OR "burning rothé shit" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | * At [[The Velveteen Elixir]], talking to [[Stylin' Horst]], choose lines about "heady top notes" OR "burning rothé shit" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* Tell [[Sauceman Chorizo]] that you can show him pleasures his husband never could. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * At [[Sharess' Caress]]: | ||
** When trying to hire both [[Sorn Orlith]] and [[Nym Orlith]], agree to invite [[Halsin]], too, if the druid is in the party {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Tell [[Sauceman Chorizo]] that you can show him pleasures his husband never could. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Get into Wyrm's Rock Fortress by either: showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]], showing [[Lower City Pass]] obtained from [[Valeria]], using [[Urgent Report for Duke Ravengard|Nashkellan's report]], bribing [[Elin|Blaze Elin]] (''{{Ability check|Persuasion|25}} required''), or passing any of class-based checks. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Get into Wyrm's Rock Fortress by either: showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]], showing [[Lower City Pass]] obtained from [[Valeria]], using [[Urgent Report for Duke Ravengard|Nashkellan's report]], bribing [[Elin|Blaze Elin]] (''{{Ability check|Persuasion|25}} required''), or passing any of class-based checks. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
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** That the [[Steel Watcher]]s will eventually turn on everyone. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** That the [[Steel Watcher]]s will eventually turn on everyone. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Agree to become allies with [[Gortash]] and slay [[Orin]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Agree to become allies with [[Gortash]] and slay [[Orin]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Refuse to | ** OR Refuse to make an alliance with him and confirm your decision {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* Agree to witness the ceremony of [[Gortash|Gortash's]] ordain, saying "All right" OR "Let's get over" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either)'' | * Agree to witness the ceremony of [[Gortash|Gortash's]] ordain, saying "All right" OR "Let's get over" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** OR Tell [[Gortash]] that you have no interest in this sham of a coronation {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR Tell [[Gortash]] that you have no interest in this sham of a coronation {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* After killing [[Orin]], speak to [[Gortash]] and surrender two your [[Netherstone]]s to him, then fight when he attacks afterwards {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Duke Ravengard]] after the coronation:'' | |||
* Ask him whether the "new dawn" is what they call tyranny now {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
** OR Tell the Duke that [[Florrick]] sent you, then probe Ravengard's mind to discover councellor's location, and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
** OR Ask Ravengard whether he knows that he is infected {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
* As a Baldurian character, ask what has happened to the city's great hero {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''[[Lower City]]''' | '''[[Lower City]]''' | ||
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===Act Three=== | ===Act Three=== | ||
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'''[[Rivington]]'''<br> | |||
''Talking to [[Yenna]],'' be rude to her: | |||
* Ask where did she last see her mum, then say her mother is probably dead. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* OR Tell Yenna to get lost. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* <u>Tell </u>[[Wulbren]] that the real enemy is Gortash, and not the [[Gondians]] | * <u>Tell </u>[[Wulbren]] that the real enemy is Gortash, and not the [[Gondians]] | ||
* When confronted by [[Ferg Drogher]] over Shadowheart's rejection of Shar, tell him that she "turned her back on your wretched goddess". {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * When confronted by [[Ferg Drogher]] over Shadowheart's rejection of Shar, tell him that she "turned her back on your wretched goddess". {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Leave [[Scratch]] with [[Angry Mar'hyah]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* If you let [[Angry Mar'hyah]] take [[Scratch]] back, speak to him and ask to be a good boy {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Tell him to stop whining {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises:'' | ''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises:'' | ||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], say you would kill someone close to you without hesitation.{{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Lae'zel]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)'' | |||
:* OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], say that you have already done it {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(This option is available if you have killed either [[Isobel]] or your partner in [[Act Two]] on demand of your [[Sceleritas Fel|Urge]])'' | |||
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that both sides need a lesson {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that both sides need a lesson {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This line goes for the Custom origin (Tav). If playing as any other Origin, except [[Dark Urge]], it might have unique formulation'' | |||
** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], propose to kill and kill again {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ** OR, Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], propose to kill and kill again {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
'''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | '''[[Circus of the Last Days]]''' | ||
* Dealing with [[Akabi]] the djinni, successfully catch him on rigging the wheel, but apologise and say you were mistaken {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Boney]] the mephit, say his wife [[Stoney]] is not your type {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talk to [[Lucretious]] before approaching Dribbles's show (when she's training up skeletons), and say that she is being a little harsh {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Shadow-Whiskers]] with {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, note that her cage looks comfy. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Talking to [[Shadow-Whiskers]] with {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, note that her cage looks comfy. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
** Then tell her to murder whoever she wants OR say "Sure thing, pussycat".{{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | ** Then tell her to murder whoever she wants OR say "Sure thing, pussycat".{{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
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* Talking to [[Crimson]], refuse to feed him via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} or mock him for being hungry (without the spell) {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | * Talking to [[Crimson]], refuse to feed him via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} or mock him for being hungry (without the spell) {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* Volunteer Shadowheart to the stage as an assistant to Dribbles {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}, and then cheer her, telling "Go on!" {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}. | * Volunteer Shadowheart to the stage as an assistant to Dribbles {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}, and then cheer her, telling "Go on!" {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}}. | ||
''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' | ''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:'' | ||
* First question: 'Judging others' OR 'A blanket' {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | * First question: 'Judging others' OR 'A blanket' {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
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* Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* * Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * * Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* | * When trying to hire both [[Sorn Orlith]] and [[Nym Orlith]], refuse to invite [[Halsin]], too, if the druid is in the party {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]''' | '''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]''' | ||
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''At the Audience Hall:'' | ''At the Audience Hall:'' | ||
* Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that you feel safer {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that you feel safer {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* | * Speaking to [[Gortash]] after killing [[Orin]], surrender two your [[Netherstone]]s to him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
** OR Say you two can be allies, but you'll keep Ketheric's and Orin's stones {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
'''[[Lower City]]''' | '''[[Lower City]]''' |
Latest revision as of 18:48, 14 November 2024
Spoiler warning: The following content contains unhidden spoilers. Read at your own risk. |
Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.
Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.
Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- "What do you want?"
- "What?"
- "What is it?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Something the matter?"
Medium and up - Sharran (20+ approval):
- "May the darkness protect you."
- "Shar's blessing upon you."
- "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"
Medium and up - Selunite (20+):
- "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
- "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
- "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I don't answer to you - move along."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting (20+ approval):
- "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
- "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
- "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
- "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"
Flirting - Low approval:
- "Hmm. You wanted something?"
- "In need of attention, I take it?"
- "Oh, you're back."
- "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"
Partnered (40+ approval):
- "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
- "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
- "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
- "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"
Partnered - Low approval:
- "I hope this is important."
- "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
- "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
- "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
- "Yes?"
Broken Up (40+ approval):
- "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
- "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
- "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
- "What can I do for you?"
Broken Up - Low approval:
- "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
- "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
- "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
- "Spit it out then."
- "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."
Approval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
In the House of Grief:
- Let her participate in the Mapping of the Heart. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Tell the cloister how Shar has blessed her. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Give her a chance to sway more of Viconia's followers. +1
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.