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{{hatnote|For a comprehensive overview of the game's damage calculations, see [[Damage mechanics]].}}
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'''Damage''' is a number that represents how deadly a threat is. When a [[creatures|creature]] ''takes damage'', they subtract that amount of damage from their current amount of [[hit points]].
'''Damage''' is a number that represents how deadly a threat is. When a [[creatures|creature]] ''takes damage'', they subtract that amount of damage from their current amount of [[hit points]].
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== Damage rolls ==
== Damage rolls ==
The base damage dealt by a [[weapons|weapon]], [[spells|spell]], class action or condition is usually determined by a ''damage roll''. Damage rolls are [[dice rolls]] made using the dice specified in the harmful source's description.
{{Excerpt|Dice rolls|Damage rolls|subsections=yes|templates=SAI, InfoBlob, note}}


=== Notation ===
==== Example ====
Damage rolls are expressed in the game using both dice notation ('''''x''d''n''''', meaning ''x'' dice with ''n'' sides) and as a damage range ("'''(''x''~''y'')'''", meaning the roll will result in between ''x'' and ''y'' damage).
A successful attack with a {{WeaponIcon|Daggers}} [[Daggers|Dagger]] does a base of {{DamageText|1d4|Piercing}} damage (1~4). This means a single four-sided die [[File:D4_Piercing.png|20px|link=]] is rolled to determine the damage, for a total of 1 to 4 piercing damage. Most weapons use a single damage die, but some weapons use two: a successful attack with a {{WeaponIcon|Greatswords}} [[Greatswords|Greatsword]] does {{DamageText|2d6|Slashing}} damage (2~12), rolling two six-sided dice [[File:D6_Slashing.png|20px|link=]] for a total of 2 to 12 slashing damage. Damaging spells typically roll more dice: for example, being caught in a {{SAI|Fireball}} will cause {{DamageText|8d6|Fire}} damage (8~48), though a successful [[Saving Throw]] can reduce it to half.


Dice used when making damage rolls is usually any number of dice with a minimum size of d4 and a maximum size of d12.
=== Attacks ===
In order to damage a target when making an attack, creatures must first make an attack roll. Attack rolls are rolled against the target's AC. If the attempt is successful, the attack ''hit'', and the attacker rolls for damage. If the result was less than the target AC, the attack was a ''miss''.  


=== Modifiers ===
==== Attack roll modifiers ====
When a creature deals damage,they make a damage roll and add any applicable modifiers to the results.{{note|Unlike d20 rolls, creatures normally do not add their [[proficiency|proficiency bonus]] to the results of their damage rolls.}} Modifiers are only added {{em|once}} per source, even multiple dice are rolled.
{{Excerpt|Dice rolls|Attack roll modifiers|templates=SAI, InfoBlob, note}}


Damage rolls typically have an associated [[abilities|ability]], and creatures add their corresponding ability score modifier to the results of those rolls.
==== Critical hits ====
 
{{Excerpt|Dice rolls|Critical hits|templates=SAI, InfoBlob, note}}
==== Weapon attacks ====
When making weapon attacks, the attacking creature's usually add their [[Strength]] or [[Dexterity]] modifier to the results of their damage roll.
 
Whether Strength or Dexterity is used depends on the weapon: usually Strength for melee weapons and Dexterity for ranged weapons.  The exceptions to this rule are [[Finesse]] weapons, which automatically select Strength or Dexterity, whichever score is higher; and [[Thrown]] weapons, which use Strength for both melee and ranged attacks.  If a weapon is both Thrown and Finesse, it uses the higher of Strength and Dexterity for both melee and ranged attacks.
 
Some examples, to make the possible combinations of Finesse and Thrown easier to understand:
 
* Using a [[Maul]] for a melee attack always uses Strength.
* Using a [[Rapier]] (Finesse) for a melee attack uses Strength or Dexterity; whichever the attacking creature has a higher score in.
* Shooting a [[Longbow]] for a ranged attack always uses Dexterity.
* Throwing a [[Handaxe]] (Thrown) for a ranged attack uses Strength.
* Throwing a [[Dagger]] (Finesse & Thrown) for a ranged attack uses Strength or Dexterity, whichever is higher.
 
Whether it's Strength or Dexterity that ends up being used, the following table defines the value of the modifier:
 
==== Spells ====
Casters do usually not add their ability score modifier to the damage rolls of spells they cast, unless a [[features|class features]] specifically permits them to do so, such as in the case of [[Warlock|warlocks]] with the {{SAI|Agonising Blast}} Invitation adding their [[Charisma]] modifier to the results of the damage rolls of {{SAI|Eldritch Blast}}.
 
=== Example ===
A successful attack with a {{WeaponIcon|Daggers}} [[Daggers|Dagger]] does a base of {{DamageText|1d4|Piercing}} damage (1~4). This means a single four-sided die [[File:D4_Piercing.png|20px|link=]] is rolled to determine the damage, for a total of 1 to 4 piercing damage. Most weapons use a single damage die, but some two-handed weapons use two: a successful attack with a {{WeaponIcon|Greatswords}} [[Greatswords|Greatsword]] does {{DamageText|2d6|Slashing}} damage (2~12), rolling two six-sided dice [[File:D6_Slashing.png|20px|link=]] for a total of 2 to 12 slashing damage. Damaging spells typically roll more dice: for example, being caught in a {{SAI|Fireball}} will cause {{DamageText|8d6|Fire}} damage (8~48), though a successful [[Saving Throw]] can reduce it to half.


== Damage types ==
== Damage types ==
All damage has a ''damage type'', of which there are 13:
All damage has a ''damage type'', of which there are 13:


{| style="margin: auto; text-align: center;"
<gallery mode="nolines" heights="40px" style="text-align:center">
|-
Bludgeoning Damage Icon.png|link=Bludgeoning|{{DamageColor|Bludgeoning|Bludgeoning}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Bludgeoning}}*
Piercing Damage Icon.png||link=Piercing|{{DamageColor|Piercing|Piercing}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Fire}}
Slashing Damage Icon.png||link=Slashing|{{DamageColor|Slashing|Slashing}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Lightning}}
Cold Damage Icon.png||link=Cold|{{DamageColor|Cold|Cold}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Acid}}
Fire Damage Icon.png||link=Fire|{{DamageColor|Fire|Fire}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Radiant}}
Lightning Damage Icon.png||link=Lightning|{{DamageColor|Lightning|Lightning}}
| style="width: 16%" | {{:Damage Types/damage|Force}}
Thunder Damage Icon.png||link=Thunder|{{DamageColor|Thunder|Thunder}}
|-
Acid Damage Icon.png||link=Acid|{{DamageColor|Acid|Acid}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Piercing}}*
Poison Damage Icon.png||link=Poison|{{DamageColor|Poison|Poison}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Cold}}
Radiant Damage Icon.png||link=Radiant|{{DamageColor|Radiant|Radiant}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Thunder}}
Necrotic Damage Icon.png||link=Necrotic|{{DamageColor|Necrotic|Necrotic}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Poison}}
Force Damage Icon.png||link=Force|{{DamageColor|Force|Force}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Necrotic}}
Psychic Damage Icon.png||link=Psychic|{{DamageColor|Psychic|Psychic}}
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Psychic}}
</gallery>
|-
| {{:Damage Types/damage|Slashing}}*
|}


A creature's [[Resistances|resistances]] determine what danage types is is immune, resistant or vulnerable towards.
Bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage are sometimes collectively referred to as {{DamageColor|Physical|'''Physical damage'''}}. Almost all weapons, melee or ranged, deal one of the physical damage types, although there are exceptions such as the [[Ne'er Misser]].


Damage dealt to resistant creatures is halved, whereas damage dealt to vulnerable creatures is doubled.
The wiki sometimes uses the term {{DamageColor|Physical|'''Weapon damage'''}} when the type of damage is based on the ''primary'' damage type of the weapon being used. This is almost always one of the physical damage types, but can be something else in rare cases. For example, after casting [[Hunter's Mark]] on an enemy, an attack with most longswords would deal additional slashing damage, and an attack with most hand crossbows would deal additional piercing damage. However, an attack with the [[Ne'er Misser]] would deal additional force damage, because the Ne'er Misser uses force as its primary damage type. Another example would be using [[Sneak Attack (Melee)|Sneak Attack]] with a [[Flame Blade (weapon)|Flame Blade]] or [[Shadow Blade (weapon)|Shadow Blade]], which would make the sneak attack deal fire or psychic damage, respectively.


If a creature is immune to a damage type, they take no damage to it.
If a source of damage mixes different sizes of dice or damage types, they will be listed separately with a plus sign between them, e.g. {{DamageText|1d8|piercing}} + {{DamageText|1d4|fire}}. Each type is dealt separately, though see [[damage mechanics]] for more details.


If a source of damage mixes different sizes of dice or damage types, they will be listed separately with a plus sign between them.
=== Resistance, Vulnerability and Immunity ===
{{main|Resistances}}
A creature's [[resistances]] determine which damage types they are immune, resistant or vulnerable to:
* Damage dealt to a creature with '''resistance''' to that damage type is ''halved''.
* Damage dealt to a creature with '''vulnerability''' to that damage type is ''doubled''.
* Damage dealt to a creature with '''immunity''' to that damage type is ''reduced to zero''.


== Sources of damage ==
Resistance and vulnerability to the same type cancel each other out, but don't affect immunity.


== A bit of mathematics ==
== A bit of mathematics ==
Note that due to the mathematics of dice rolls, the difference between, say, 1d8 and 2d4 is more than just the higher minimum value of 2 on the 2d4 roll. With the d8, you have an equal chance of getting, say, a 5 and an 8.  On the other hand, the 2d4 roll is statistically more likely to lead to a total value of 5, than a total value of 8. This is most easily explained with a table of all possible outcomes:
Note that due to the mathematics of dice rolls, the difference between, say, 1d8 and 2d4 is more than just the higher minimum value of 2 on the 2d4 roll. With the d8, you have an equal chance of getting, say, a 5 and an 8.  On the other hand, the 2d4 roll is statistically more likely to lead to a total value of 5, than a total value of 8. This is most easily explained with a table of all possible outcomes:


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center; width: 15em;"
|+ Possible results of a 2d4 roll, highlighting the number of possibilities resulting in a total value of 5
|+ Possible results of a 2d4 roll, highlighting the outcomes resulting in a total value of 5
|-
|-
! First roll !! Second roll !! Total value
! rowspan="2" colspan="2" | +
! colspan="4" scope="col" | 2<sup>nd</sup> roll  
|-
|-
| 1 || 1 || 2
! scope="col" | '''1'''
! scope="col" | '''2'''
! scope="col" | '''3'''
! scope="col" | '''4'''
|-
! rowspan="4" scope="row" | '''1<sup>st</sup> roll'''
! scope="row" | '''1'''
| 2 || 3 || 4 || {{colour|red|'''5'''}}
|-     
|-     
| 1 || 2 || 3
! scope="row" | '''2'''
| 3 || 4 || {{colour|red|'''5'''}} || 6
|-     
|-     
| 1 || 3 || 4
! scope="row" | '''3'''
| 4 || {{colour|red|'''5'''}} || 6 || 7
|-     
|-     
| 1 || 4 || {{color|red|'''5'''}}
! scope="row" | '''4'''
|-   
| {{colour|red|'''5'''}}|| 6 || 7 || 8
| 2 || 1 || 3
|-   
| 2 || 2 || 4
|-   
| 2 || 3 || {{color|red|'''5'''}}
|-   
| 2 || 4 || 6
|-   
| 3 || 1 || 4
|-   
| 3 || 2 || {{color|red|'''5'''}}
|-   
| 3 || 3 || 6
|-   
| 3 || 4 || 7
|-   
| 4 || 1 || {{color|red|'''5'''}}
|-   
| 4 || 2 || 6
|-   
| 4 || 3 || 7
|-   
| 4 || 4 || 8
|}
|}


Notice how often the 5 appears in the possibilities for the '''total value''' (4 out of 16 possibilities) vs. how often the 8 appears (1 out of 16).  This means a 2d4 roll has a 25% chance of resulting in 5 points of damage, but only a 6.125% chance of resulting in 8 points of damage.  Meanwhile, the 1d8 roll actually has a higher chance of resulting in the maximum damage value of 8, since 1 out of 8 possibilities (12.5%) result in an 8.
Notice how often the 5 appears in the possibilities for the '''total value''' (4 out of 16 possibilities) vs. how often the 8 appears (1 out of 16).  This means a 2d4 roll has a 25% chance of resulting in 5 points of damage, but only a 6.125% chance of resulting in 8 points of damage.  Meanwhile, the 1d8 roll actually has a higher chance of resulting in the maximum damage value of 8, since 1 out of 8 possibilities (12.5%) result in an 8. However, the average roll of 2d4 is 5 damage, while the average roll of 1d8 is only 4.5, because 2d4 can never roll a 1. Therefore, 2d4 is generally more consistent in damage output and will result in higher rolls in the long run.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[:Category:Sources of damage]]
* [[:Category:Sources of damage]]
== Footnotes ==
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[[Category:Gameplay mechanics]]
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Latest revision as of 10:18, 4 August 2024

For a comprehensive overview of the game's damage calculations, see Damage mechanics.
1d4 + 1d6 Poison.png

Damage is a number that represents how deadly a threat is. When a creature takes damage, they subtract that amount of damage from their current amount of hit points.

Damage is dealt with attacks and other harmful actions, as well as by a variety of conditions.

Damage rolls[edit | edit source]

The base damage dealt by a weapon, spell, class action, or condition is usually determined by a damage roll. Damage rolls always have an associated damage type that is given following the dice notation, e.g. .

Damage modifiers[edit source]

Modifiers added to damage rolls are only added per source, even if multiple dice are rolled.

Which ability score modifier is added to a damage roll depends on the attack:

  • When making weapon attacks, the attacking creature usually adds their ability score modifier to the attack roll.
  • Ability score modifiers are not normally added to damage rolls dealt by spells or spell attacks, unless specifically stated otherwise in the spell's description, or if enabled by some feature, such as Agonising Blast Agonising Blast.
Proficiency bonuses are not added to damage rolls unless the attack being used (e.g. Shadowsoaked Blow) says so.

Example[edit | edit source]

A successful attack with a Daggers Dagger does a base of 1d4Damage TypesPiercing damage (1~4). This means a single four-sided die D4 Piercing.png is rolled to determine the damage, for a total of 1 to 4 piercing damage. Most weapons use a single damage die, but some weapons use two: a successful attack with a Greatswords Greatsword does 2d6Damage TypesSlashing damage (2~12), rolling two six-sided dice D6 Slashing.png for a total of 2 to 12 slashing damage. Damaging spells typically roll more dice: for example, being caught in a Fireball Fireball will cause 8d6Damage TypesFire damage (8~48), though a successful Saving Throw can reduce it to half.

Attacks[edit | edit source]

In order to damage a target when making an attack, creatures must first make an attack roll. Attack rolls are rolled against the target's AC. If the attempt is successful, the attack hit, and the attacker rolls for damage. If the result was less than the target AC, the attack was a miss.

Attack roll modifiers[edit | edit source]

Attack rolls are always made using an associated ability:

  • Unarmed attacks, and attacks made with melee weapons and thrown weapons generally add the attacking creature's Strength modifier.
  • If the weapon has the Finesse property, attacks with it add either the attacker's Strength or Dexterity modifier, whichever is higher.
  • Unarmed attacks may use the attacker's Dexterity modifier if they have certain features like Dextrous Attacks from the Monk class.
  • Attacks made with ranged weapons add the creature's Dexterity modifier.
  • Spell attacks add the caster's spellcasting ability modifier, generally determined by their class.
If the attacker is proficient with the weapon they are wielding, or if the attack is a spell attack or unarmed attack, they also add their proficiency bonus.

Critical hits[edit | edit source]

Example of a critical hit with a 1d6 shortsword.

When a creature rolls a natural 20 on an attack roll, the attack is a critical hit. Critical hits automatically land regardless of the target's AC, and the attacker also rolls twice the normal number of dice to determine damage dealt, including additional dice such as those from smites or combat maneuvers. Modifiers and bonuses – including the creature's relevant ability score modifier and proficiency bonus – are not doubled.

Some feats, class features, and items reduce the critical hit threshold by 1, allowing the creature to land critical hits by rolling either 19 or 20 on attack rolls. Multiple sources of this effect stack, allowing the critical hit threshold to go even lower than 19.

Damage types[edit | edit source]

All damage has a damage type, of which there are 13:

Bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage are sometimes collectively referred to as Physical damage. Almost all weapons, melee or ranged, deal one of the physical damage types, although there are exceptions such as the Ne'er Misser.

The wiki sometimes uses the term Weapon damage when the type of damage is based on the primary damage type of the weapon being used. This is almost always one of the physical damage types, but can be something else in rare cases. For example, after casting Hunter's Mark on an enemy, an attack with most longswords would deal additional slashing damage, and an attack with most hand crossbows would deal additional piercing damage. However, an attack with the Ne'er Misser would deal additional force damage, because the Ne'er Misser uses force as its primary damage type. Another example would be using Sneak Attack with a Flame Blade or Shadow Blade, which would make the sneak attack deal fire or psychic damage, respectively.

If a source of damage mixes different sizes of dice or damage types, they will be listed separately with a plus sign between them, e.g. 1d8Damage Typespiercing + 1d4Damage Typesfire. Each type is dealt separately, though see damage mechanics for more details.

Resistance, Vulnerability and Immunity[edit | edit source]

Main article: Resistances

A creature's resistances determine which damage types they are immune, resistant or vulnerable to:

  • Damage dealt to a creature with resistance to that damage type is halved.
  • Damage dealt to a creature with vulnerability to that damage type is doubled.
  • Damage dealt to a creature with immunity to that damage type is reduced to zero.

Resistance and vulnerability to the same type cancel each other out, but don't affect immunity.

A bit of mathematics[edit | edit source]

Note that due to the mathematics of dice rolls, the difference between, say, 1d8 and 2d4 is more than just the higher minimum value of 2 on the 2d4 roll. With the d8, you have an equal chance of getting, say, a 5 and an 8. On the other hand, the 2d4 roll is statistically more likely to lead to a total value of 5, than a total value of 8. This is most easily explained with a table of all possible outcomes:

Possible results of a 2d4 roll, highlighting the outcomes resulting in a total value of 5
+ 2nd roll
1 2 3 4
1st roll 1 2 3 4 5
2 3 4 5 6
3 4 5 6 7
4 5 6 7 8

Notice how often the 5 appears in the possibilities for the total value (4 out of 16 possibilities) vs. how often the 8 appears (1 out of 16). This means a 2d4 roll has a 25% chance of resulting in 5 points of damage, but only a 6.125% chance of resulting in 8 points of damage. Meanwhile, the 1d8 roll actually has a higher chance of resulting in the maximum damage value of 8, since 1 out of 8 possibilities (12.5%) result in an 8. However, the average roll of 2d4 is 5 damage, while the average roll of 1d8 is only 4.5, because 2d4 can never roll a 1. Therefore, 2d4 is generally more consistent in damage output and will result in higher rolls in the long run.

See also[edit | edit source]

Footnotes[edit | edit source]