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[[File:Minthara Approval.png|44px|left|alt=Minthara Approves|link=|Minthara Approves]]Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, '''Minthara''' has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.
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Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, '''Minthara''' has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.


The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower [[Minthara]]'s [[Approval]].  
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower [[Minthara]]'s [[Approval]].  
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== Greetings ==
== Greetings ==


Depending on their approval rating, Minthara may greet the player with:
Currently, regardless of their approval rating or relationship status, Minthara greets the player with: {{Verify}}


Very Low (-40 or less){{Verify}}
* "You wish to consult me?"
*
If spoken to by someone other than the player character:
Low (-20 or less){{Verify}}
 
*
* "I do not have time for idle chatter."
Neutral (-19 - 20)
*
Medium approval (20+){{Verify}}
*
High approval (40+){{Verify}}
* You wish to consult me?


== Approval ==
== Approval ==
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=== Act Two ===
=== Act Two ===
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'''[[Shadowed Battlefield]]'''
''If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:''
* <u>Order</u> [[Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena.
<!--* Traversing [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] with the convoy, protect them and maintain your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** After defeating Harpers, convince the drider through [[Deception]] to give you the lantern {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Then use [[Deception]] again, and convince the drider to walk away into the shadows-->
*Convince the drider to give up the moon lantern. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
*After being persuaded to give you the moon lantern, Convince a drider patrol to leave without protection from the curse. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
'''[[Last Light Inn]]'''
'''[[Last Light Inn]]'''
* Refuse to drink Jaheira's truth-serum dosed wine.
* <u>Refuse</u> to drink the spiked wine when talking to [[Jaheira]] inside.
* Inform [[Isobel]] that [[Marcus]] is a true soul.
* <u>Talking</u> to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret
** Ask [[Marcus]] for more information, and then tell [[Isobel]] that he's trying to kidnap her.
* <u>When</u> speaking with [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]], claim you can kidnap [[Isobel Thorm|Isobel]] by your self.
* <u>Inform</u> Isobel that Marcus is a true soul.
** <u>Tell</u> Isobel that Marcus plans to kidnap her when he attacks the [[Last Light Inn]].


'''[[House of Healing]]'''
* Persuade [[Malus Thorm]] to have the Sisters "operate" on each other or on his person.
* As a Paladin, tell [[Malus Thorm]] that you are duty bound to end him.


'''[[The Waning Moon]]'''
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''
* Refuse to drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]].
* Avoid meeting [[Arabella]] in Act Two until you find her parents. Afterwards, tell her that they will never return {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Successfully drink with Thisobald (rather than choosing the Slight of Hand check to fake it).
'''In the [[House of Healing]]'''
* Tell Thisobald any tale, including a fabricated one.
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
* Persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
'''[[Reithwin Tollhouse]]'''
* Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Select "I bring death" when talking to [[Gerringothe Thorm]].
*<u> Playing</u> as a [[Paladin]], tell Malus Thorm that you are duty bound to end him.
* Successfully defeat Gerringothe through dialogue.
'''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]'''
* <u>When</u> talking to [[Gerringothe Thorm]], tell her you bring death.
* <u>Successfully</u> convince Gerringothe Thorm to end herself by any available option.
'''At [[The Waning Moon]]'''
* <u>Refuse</u> to drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]].
* Safely drink with Thisobald Thorm (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}''(each time)''
** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' <!-- this was commented out, but I've confirmed it -->
* Successfully entertain Thisobald Thorm with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll), up to two times {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(each time)'' .
<!--▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.''
* By any means make the [[Thisobald Thorm]] drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst-->


'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]'''
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]'''
* Persuade [[Nessa]] that her 'love' for [[Yurgir]] is the result of being magically dosed.
* Near the [[Gauntlet of Shar|Pedestal of Reckoning]], tell [[Shadowheart]] you'll help her surmount Shar's trials {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Encourage [[Shadowheart]] to to kill the Nightsong.
* <u>Persuade</u> [[Balthazar]] to give you the bell to summon [[Flesh]]
* Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask [[Balthazar]] what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* <u>Persuade</u> [[Nessa]] that her 'love' for [[Yurgir]] is the result of being magically dosed.
'''In the [[Shadowfell]]:'''
*<u> Encourage</u> Shadowheart to kill the Nightsong.
* <u>Choose</u> to fight Shadowheart when confronting the Nightsong.


'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''
* Purge the pods in the Tadpoling Centre. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* At the [[Tadpoling Centre]], use the Neural Apparatus to purge the pods. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Consume the mind of the githzerai [[Waking Mind]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* When talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]] in the [[Necrotic Laboratory]] choose to "consume" the mind.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
*Tell the [[Fresh Mind]] it will never wake again. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell the [[Fresh Mind]] it will never wake again.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}}


'''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''
* Sever the control [[Linsella]] has over the gnolls in the kitchen.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Pass a deception check on [[Zrell]] if you chose to spare the goblins at the end of Minthara's trial. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Pass a deception check on [[Zrell]] if you chose to spare the goblins at the end of Minthara's trial. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* When Minthara sits on the throne after defeating Ketheric:
* <u>At the</u> [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric Thorm]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Say that it suits her. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}  
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first''
** Say that you make a good team. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]]:
* Propose to kill Orin and Gortash and take their place as leader of the Absolute.
** Say that it suits her. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* When Minthara asks why you chose to kill the tieflings in the Grove:  
** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
** Propose to take [[Orin]]'s place to lead the cult of Absolute {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
** Tell her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones.{{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* When Minthara asks about the one thing that needs explaining:  
** Say that you attacked the Grove to impress her. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** Say that you attacked the Grove to impress her. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** Tell her that you helped her to learn more about the tadpoles.  
** Tell her you want to learn more about the tadpole. {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
{{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
** Tell her you wanted revenge. {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
** Tell her you wanted revenge on those who did this to you.
* After Minthara gets up from the throne:
*When discussing how Ketheric trapped her, tell her "Understanding. Ketheric gave you the welcome you felt you deserved."
** Ask whether she respected Ketheric. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
*Tell her "You will have your revenge" on Orin for inserting a tadpole in her.  
** When discussing her joining the cult of the Absolute, tell her Ketheric gave you the welcome you felt you deserved. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
*Ask "You respected him?" when discussing Ketheric's daeth.
** Promise she will have her revenge on Orin. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
==== Camp/Conversation ====
* When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing [[Ketheric Thorm]], say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* When talking to her about remembering what she did while serving the Absolute respond with “To Lose your free will and be forced to kill. That must be horrible.”  {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
 
* When talking about the time she invaded Moonrise, say that pride can be a great weakness.
'''[[Campsite|Camp/Conversation]]'''
* Say that you will help on her revenge.
* When discussing her serving the Absolute tell her that losing free will and be forced to kill is horrible. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* Ask if she respects Ketheric.
* <u>When </u>talking about the time she invaded Moonrise, say that pride can be a great weakness.
* Tell her "A dangerous upbringing. It made you strong." {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell her "A dangerous upbringing. It made you strong." {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Be flattered when she mentions that she didn't expect another outcast from the [[Underdark]], you. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
* When she reaches out to your mind as you approach:
** Let her in exchange to see her thoughts as well. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** Tell her you're flattered or that she is rather special, too {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** If you imagine her as a Lover {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
** OR If you imagine her as any of the others, '''except for monster''', you can follow up with '' 'I want you too.' '' {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
* As the [[Dark Urge]], when you confess your yearn to kill:
** When she asks why you confide in her, answer that you trust her. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
** When she tells you she fear your bloodlust controls you, answer that you enjoy killing, but can control myself. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
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'''[[Rivington]]'''
'''[[Rivington]]'''
* Choosing not to help [[Yenna]] when she approaches you at Rivington. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''Talking to [[Yenna]]:''
* Choosing to give Yenna 5 gold when she approaches you at Rivington. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell Yenna to get lost. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Choosing to give Yenna food when she approaches you at Rivington {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
* Acknowledge to Fist Rowan that the Baldurian citizen are soft and need reeducation through killing {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''Dealing with [[Orin]]'s guises:''
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Fist Rowan]], tell her that both sides need a lesson {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Prod the [[Dying Stone Lord Thug]]'s wound. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Then make him suffer. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], tell her you would kill someone close to you without hesitation. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Lae'zel]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)''
 
* Tell the [[Strange Ox]] that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
▶ '''''Note:''' Available if you haven't resolved interactions with the Ox in the [[Act Two]]''
* Promise to protect her from [[Orin]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* Promise to protect her from [[Orin]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* "Boo" at Dribbles the Clown's performance at the [[Circus of the Last Days|Circus]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell [[Nestor]] that you will take a donation.
* Applaud Dribbles' scarecrow joke. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Leave [[Scratch]] with [[Angry Mar'hyah]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Threaten the guard at the checkpoint. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* As Origin [[Astarion]], refuse to help Ulma in the [[Gur Camp]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Get more money out of [[Danzo Arkwright]] in return for the Zhentarim letters, using any check-based option.  
* Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
'''[[Circus of the Last Days]]'''<br>
''Watching [[Dribbles the Clown|Dribbles's]] show:''
* Yell 'Boo! Get off the stage!' OR say 'What a corny joke' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either)''
* Refuse to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Refuse to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Get onto Dribbles' stage and say what makes you special:
* If going on stage yourself, say you're special because of your kindness to everyone, your courage or your strength.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either)''
** Your kindness to everyone. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Your courage. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Your strength. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Prompt her to the stage with the drider joke. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Prompt her to the stage with the drider joke. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Suggest Astarion to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Suggest [[Astarion]] to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Suggest Lae'zel to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
* Suggest [[Lae'zel]] to get onto the stage. {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
* Saying during the love test of Zenthino:
* Suggest [[Minsc]] get on stage {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, then tell him "Go on, Minsc!" {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** She misses the food. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:''
** She misses picking off her siblings. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* First question: 'Picking off siblings' {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}, OR 'Ulaver wine' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** She is admiring nobody. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Second question: 'Me' {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}, OR 'Gods' {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}, OR 'Nobody' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** She is admiring you. {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
* Third question: 'Let herself be captured' {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
** That she was captured by the cult because of love. {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
 
* Telling the smith that you would turn your blade on the closest of you. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
'''[[Open Hand Temple]]'''
* Leaving [[Scratch]] with [[Mar'hyah]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Agree with Brother Bill that if Father Logan had been pickier, he might still be alive. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell [[Clements]], Father Logan shouldn't have taken everybody in. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Refuse to take on the curse of the spirit in the amulet. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Refuse to take on the curse of the spirit in the amulet. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Threaten the guard at the checkpoint. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Agree to bear the curse {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}and then withstand [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] madness.{{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
 
'''[[Angleiron's Cellar]]'''
* Take the bomb the first time you speak with [[Wulbren Bongle]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}


'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]'''
'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]'''
* Accept or reject the [[Deal with the Gnomes]] quest from [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Accept OR refuse to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]] [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Minthara|+1}} ''(either)''
* Get access to Wyrm's Rock Fortress with the Lower City Pass or [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* At [[Carm's Garm]], when [[Naaber]] pretends to be a dog, choose ''"nobody likes Naaber"'' line. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Threaten [[Fist Reynash]] with blackmailing. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Get into Wyrm's Rock Fortress by either: showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]], showing [[Lower City Pass]] obtained from [[Valeria]], using [[Urgent Report for Duke Ravengard|Nashkellan's report]], bribing [[Elin|Blaze Elin]] (''{{Ability check|Persuasion|25}} required''), or passing any of class-based checks. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell [[Manip Bakshi]] that Reynash was thieving the belonings of the guards. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Confront Manip Bakshi that they aren't good as guards. {{Approval|Minthara|+2}}
* Get [[Arkleia Oloril]] into trading the equipment of the Flaming Fists with you. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Say that you should not trust the [[Steel Watcher]]s because they will turn on everyone while talking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard, Lady Durinbold's Attendant and Lord Shattershield's Attendant. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}


'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]'''
'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]'''
* As the Dark Urge, during the inauguration and after [[Gortash]] explains how he has met you before, reply, "How dare Orin take my place. I'll make her pay."
* As the Dark Urge, during the inauguration and after [[Gortash]] explains how he has met you before, reply, "I don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant!"


==== Camp/Conversation ====
''At the Flaming Fist quarters:''
* Let her read your thoughts after she hesitates to. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
* Convince the Flaming Fist quartermaster [[Arkleia Oloril]] to trade with you. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell her she's special. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** OR, If failed to convince, attack her {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* See her as a lover while she reads your thoughts. {{Approval|Minthara|+10}}
''When you spot [[Fist Reynash]] trying to open a chest:''
* Find out that he needs gold, and then:
** Tell him to get a grip {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** OR [[Intimidation|Intimidate]] or blackmail him into giving you his stash {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Fail the Intimidation check to make him surrender his stash {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
''Speaking to Manip Bakshi (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not):''
* Successfully detect his thoughts and pretend to be a new recruit {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* OR Tell him you've spotted Reynash on stealing {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, and then:
** Ask whether it is Fists' job to catch criminals {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** OR Ask a reward for turning Reynash in {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Attack Bakshi {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** OR Agree to leave barracks (or let him escort you out) {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
''At the Audience Hall:''
* Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that the [[Steel Watcher]]s will eventually turn on everyone. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Pass the [[Steel Watcher]] that confronts you at the coronation {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
▶''''' Note:''' This dialogue appears only if Karlach '''is not''' in the party''
* Refuse twice to give [[Gortash]] the Netherstones. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Playing as [[The Dark Urge]], when [[Gortash]] explains your previous dealings:
** Say that you'll make Orin pay for taking your place {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** OR reply that you don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell [[Duke Ravengard]] that [[Florrick]] sent you, then probe his mind to discover councellor's location and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
 
'''[[Lower City]]:'''
* Tell [[Silfy]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette''. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Tell [[Luan]] she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of ''Baldur's Mouth Gazette'' {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}, then tell her to stand up straight and project her voice {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}.
''In [[Cazador's Dungeon]]:''
* Tell [[Sebastian]] you have no intention of freeing the spawn. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''At the [[House of Grief]]:''
* Tell [[Arves]] you've come to collect interest on his debt. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Kill [[Viconia]] after interrogating her, if previously she had been knocked out in the battle. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''At the [[Chromatic Scale]]:''
* As a Bard, ask [[Thomas C. Quirkilious]] about the benefits of using worg hair lute strings. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''At the [[Devil's Fee]]:''
* When first speaking with Helsik, persuade her to give you a free sample. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Upon returning from [[House of Hope]], intimidate [[Helsik]] saying that you've just killed a devil in his own home.{{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
''At the [[Sorcerous Sundries]]:''
* Tell [[Lorroakan]] you know where the [[Nightsong]] is.
 
'''[[Campsite|Camp/Conversation]]'''
* Let her use the [[Astral-Touched Tadpole]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* Let her use the [[Astral-Touched Tadpole]]. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* Acknowledge that children should earn their keep. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
* Agree with her on that refugees should earn their keep. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
* When talking about Menzoberranzan, tell her that her upbringing made her strong. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Ask her why not to take the head of the next urchin. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* Ask her why not to take the head of the next urchin. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* After revealing your origin as the [[Dark Urge]], tell her that she also exquisite. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* After revealing your origin as the [[Dark Urge]], tell her that she is also exquisite. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
* Telling Scratch he's back where he belongs after giving him back to Mar'hyah and then freeing him from his cage and letting him escape back to camp.
* Tell Scratch he's back where he belongs after he returns back to camp.
* Persuade Lae'zel to kneel to [[Vlaakith]] when she appears at your camp.
* Persuade [[Lae'zel]] to kneel to [[Vlaakith]] when she appears at your camp.
* When asking her if she has seen anything like the [[Steel Watcher]]s before, tell her you wish you had such devices of your own. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}}}
* When asking her if she has seen anything like the [[Steel Watcher]]s before, tell her you wish you had such devices of your own. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
* After purchasing a copy of ''[[Baldur's Mouth Gazette]]'' from a street vendor, ask her what she would do if she ran the paper. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
* After defeating [[Orin]]:
** Tell her that fight isn't over yet OR that she's one of few people who dared to face a Chosen of Bhaal. {{Approval|Minthara|+3}}
** Observe that she sounds disheartened. {{Approval|Minthara|+1}}
** Tell her she is nothing like Orin OR that she and Orin could have been sisters. {{Approval|Minthara|+5}}
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==Disapproval==
==Disapproval==
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'''[[Last Light Inn]]'''
'''[[Last Light Inn]]'''
* Agree to help [[Marcus]] abduct [[Isobel]].
* Agree to help Marcus abduct Isobel.
* Tell [[Isobel]] she is going to "meet Ketheric face-to-face" when helping [[Marcus]] abduct her.
* Tell Isobel she is going to "meet Ketheric face-to-face" when helping Marcus abduct her.
 
'''[[Shadow-Cursed Lands]]'''
*Agree to help [[Arabella]] find her parents.
*Let [[Arabella]] stay at your camp.


'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]'''
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** Tell her you enjoy killing.
** Tell her you enjoy killing.
** Tell her a violent urge is the cause.
** Tell her a violent urge is the cause.
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''
* Use the Neural Apparatus to release everyone in the Tadpoling Centre.
 
'''Camp/Conversation'''
* After confessing your urge to kill as the Dark Urge, tell her that you fear that you're similar to a ''qu'lith quarthan''. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}}}


===Act Three===
===Act Three===
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'''[[Rivington]]'''
'''[[Rivington]]'''
* Saying during the love test of Zenthino:
* When passing [[Zethino|Zethino's]] trial, choose answers:
** She misses her pet spiders. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** First question: 'Pet spiders' OR 'Time with her family' {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(either)''
** She misses her time with the family. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** Second question: 'Drizzt Do'Urden' {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** She is admiring [[Drizzt Do'Urden]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** Third question: 'Raiding the grove', OR 'Deny Lolth', OR 'Fall for me' {{Approval|Minthara|-1}} ''(either)''
** That turning on Lolth was the worst thing love has done. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** That falling for you was a mistake. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
** Raiding the Grove was wrong. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Suggest her as candidate for the stage at Dribbles the Clown's performance. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Suggest her as candidate for the stage at Dribbles the Clown's performance. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Intimidate [[Mar'hyah]] while standing up for [[Scratch]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Intimidate [[Angry Mar'hyah]] while standing up for [[Scratch]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Intimidate or deceive Mar'hyah into leaving. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Intimidate or deceive Mar'hyah into leaving. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Convincing Mar'hyah that Scratch is a terrible influence for the other dogs. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Convince Mar'hyah that Scratch is a terrible influence for the other dogs. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Telling the smith that you wouldn't turn your blade on the closest of you. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* If [[Orin]] is impersonating [[Gyldro Angleiron]], tell her you would never kill someone close to you. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Assure Clements that Ilmater is proud of Logan. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
▶ '''''Note:''' When playing as [[Karlach]] or [[Wyll]] origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 3)''
* Assure [[Brother Clements]] that Ilmater is proud of Father Lorgan. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Tell [[Tara]] to stop eating pigeons. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Tell [[Tara]] to stop eating pigeons. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Consent to arrest when the Steel Watcher at the [[South Span Checkpoint]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
'''[[Angleiron's Cellar]]'''
* Do not take the bomb when speaking with [[Wulbren Bongle]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}


'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]'''
'''[[Wyrm's Crossing]]'''
* Try to hire one of the drow twins. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Try to hire any of the drow twins. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Give [[Reynash]] the necessary gold to pay the ferry ticket. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Give [[Reynash]] the necessary gold to pay the ferry ticket. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}


'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]'''
'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]'''
* As the Dark Urge, during the inauguration and after [[Gortash]] explains how he has met you before, reply, "You misread me. I've come to end this evil plot"


==== Camp/Conversation ====
''At the Flaming Fist barracks:''
* Don't let her read your thoughts. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* Give [[Reynash|Fist Reynash]] 300 gold to take the ferry {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* See her as a monster while she reads your thoughts. {{Approval|Minthara|-5}}
* Speaking to Manip Bakshi afterwards (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), let him arrest you {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* When asking her if she has seen anything like the [[Steel Watcher]]s before, tell her they need to destroy them, and put a stop to this 'revolution'. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}}}
 
''At the Audience Hall:''
* <u>As the Dark Urge</u>, during the inauguration and after [[Gortash]] explains how he has met you before, reply, "You misread me. I've come to end this evil plot"
 
'''[[Lower City]]'''
* Agree to follow [[Araj Oblodra]] inside after the explosion. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* At the [[The Lodge|Society of Brilliance]], refuse to hand the [[Githyanki Egg]] over to [[Havkelaag]] and call his experiment barbaric. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''[[Stormshore Tabernacle]]'''
* <u>Donate</u> to a deity at their statue.
** Donate to [[Lolth]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-5}}
** Donate to any other deity. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''[[The Counting House]]'''
* Give [[Rags Deelarma]] begging outside the entrance a handful of coins. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''[[Cazador's Dungeon]]'''
* Tell [[Sebastian]] "We'll set you free - what else?" when he asks what will happen to the spawn. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''[[House of Hope]]'''
* Vow your body to [[Haarlep]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''[[Lower City Sewers]]'''
* Persuade [[The Emperor]] to extend his protection to [[Minsc]]. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
 
'''Camp/Conversation'''
* When asking her if she has seen anything like the [[Steel Watcher]]s before, tell her they need to destroy them, and put a stop to this 'revolution'. {{Approval|Minthara|-1}}
* <u>Call [[Gortash]]</u> a tyrant, not a saviour
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Latest revision as of 17:46, 18 September 2024

Being a Drow and follower of the Absolute, Minthara has a highly hostile and cruel attitude towards other beings, considering pretty much everyone as inferior. She has a special disdain for those who do not share her beliefs, and as a drow noble, she holds drow characters in high regard.

The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Minthara's Approval.

For more information about the approval system, see Approval.

Greetings[edit | edit source]

Currently, regardless of their approval rating or relationship status, Minthara greets the player with: [Needs Verification]

  • "You wish to consult me?"

If spoken to by someone other than the player character:

  • "I do not have time for idle chatter."

Approval[edit | edit source]

The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to gain approval.

Act Two[edit | edit source]

Ico knownSpells lvl 02.png Act 2 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Shadowed Battlefield If entering the Shadow-Cursed Lands from the Rosymorn Monastery Trail:

  • Order Warrior Gronag to fetch the bone, after he makes the same with the hyena.
  • Convince the drider to give up the moon lantern. Minthara approves +1
  • After being persuaded to give you the moon lantern, Convince a drider patrol to leave without protection from the curse. Minthara approves +1


Last Light Inn

  • Refuse to drink the spiked wine when talking to Jaheira inside.
  • Talking to the Strange Ox, promise to keep its secret
  • When speaking with Marcus, claim you can kidnap Isobel by your self.
  • Inform Isobel that Marcus is a true soul.
    • Tell Isobel that Marcus plans to kidnap her when he attacks the Last Light Inn.


Reithwin Town

  • Avoid meeting Arabella in Act Two until you find her parents. Afterwards, tell her that they will never return Minthara approves +1

In the House of Healing

  • Convince Malus Thorm to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.Minthara approves +1
  • Persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. Minthara approves +1
  • Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. Minthara approves +1
  • Playing as a Paladin, tell Malus Thorm that you are duty bound to end him.

In the Reithwin Tollhouse

  • When talking to Gerringothe Thorm, tell her you bring death.
  • Successfully convince Gerringothe Thorm to end herself by any available option.

At The Waning Moon

  • Refuse to drink with Thisobald Thorm.
  • Safely drink with Thisobald Thorm (rolling Saving Throw, either general or class-based) up to three times total Minthara approves +1(each time)
    • OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling Sleight of Hand) Minthara approves +1 (gains approval only in first round)
  • Successfully entertain Thisobald Thorm with your stories (through Performance roll), up to two times Minthara approves +1 (each time) .

Gauntlet of Shar

In the Shadowfell:

  • Encourage Shadowheart to kill the Nightsong.
  • Choose to fight Shadowheart when confronting the Nightsong.

Mind Flayer Colony

Moonrise Towers

Note: This option requires DC 21 Intimidation check and any of subsequent DC 30 checks first

  • When talking to Minthara after killing Ketheric Thorm:
    • Say that it suits her. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell her that together you make a good team. Minthara approves +10
    • Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world Minthara approves +5
    • Propose to take Orin's place to lead the cult of Absolute Minthara approves +5
    • Tell her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones.Minthara approves +5
  • When Minthara asks about the one thing that needs explaining:
    • Say that you attacked the Grove to impress her. Minthara approves +3
    • Tell her you want to learn more about the tadpole. Minthara approves +10
    • Tell her you wanted revenge. Minthara approves +10
  • After Minthara gets up from the throne:
    • Ask whether she respected Ketheric. Minthara approves +1
    • When discussing her joining the cult of the Absolute, tell her Ketheric gave you the welcome you felt you deserved. Minthara approves +1
    • Promise she will have her revenge on Orin. Minthara approves +5
  • When talking to Jaheira after killing Ketheric Thorm, say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too Minthara approves +1

Camp/Conversation

  • When discussing her serving the Absolute tell her that losing free will and be forced to kill is horrible. Minthara approves +5
  • When talking about the time she invaded Moonrise, say that pride can be a great weakness.
  • Tell her "A dangerous upbringing. It made you strong." Minthara approves +1
  • When she reaches out to your mind as you approach:
    • Let her in exchange to see her thoughts as well. Minthara approves +3
    • Tell her you're flattered or that she is rather special, too Minthara approves +3
    • If you imagine her as a Lover Minthara approves +10
    • OR If you imagine her as any of the others, except for monster, you can follow up with 'I want you too.' Minthara approves +10
  • As the Dark Urge, when you confess your yearn to kill:
    • When she asks why you confide in her, answer that you trust her. Minthara approves +5
    • When she tells you she fear your bloodlust controls you, answer that you enjoy killing, but can control myself. Minthara approves +1

Act Three[edit | edit source]

Ico knownSpells lvl 03.png Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Rivington Talking to Yenna:

  • Tell Yenna to get lost. Minthara approves +1

Dealing with Orin's guises:

Note: When playing as Lae'zel origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 4)

  • Tell the Strange Ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. Minthara approves +1

Note: Available if you haven't resolved interactions with the Ox in the Act Two

  • Promise to protect her from Orin. Minthara approves +5
  • Tell Nestor that you will take a donation.
  • Leave Scratch with Angry Mar'hyah. Minthara approves +1
  • Threaten the guard at the checkpoint. Minthara approves +1
  • As Origin Astarion, refuse to help Ulma in the Gur Camp. Minthara approves +1
  • Get more money out of Danzo Arkwright in return for the Zhentarim letters, using any check-based option.
  • Refuse to be arrested by the Steel Watcher at the gate between Rivington and Wyrm's Crossing Minthara approves +1

Circus of the Last Days
Watching Dribbles's show:

  • Yell 'Boo! Get off the stage!' OR say 'What a corny joke' Minthara approves +1 (either)
  • Refuse to get onto the stage. Minthara approves +1
  • If going on stage yourself, say you're special because of your kindness to everyone, your courage or your strength.Minthara approves +1 (either)
  • Prompt her to the stage with the drider joke. Minthara approves +1
  • Suggest Astarion to get onto the stage. Minthara approves +1
  • Suggest Lae'zel to get onto the stage. Minthara approves +2
  • Suggest Minsc get on stage Minthara approves +1, then tell him "Go on, Minsc!" Minthara approves +1

When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:

  • First question: 'Picking off siblings' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Ulaver wine' Minthara approves +1
  • Second question: 'Me' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Gods' Minthara approves +2, OR 'Nobody' Minthara approves +1
  • Third question: 'Let herself be captured' Minthara approves +2

Open Hand Temple

  • Agree with Brother Bill that if Father Logan had been pickier, he might still be alive. Minthara approves +1
  • Refuse to take on the curse of the spirit in the amulet. Minthara approves +1
  • Agree to bear the curse Minthara disapproves -1and then withstand Monk Manifestation's madness.Minthara approves +3

Angleiron's Cellar

Wyrm's Crossing

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist quarters:

  • Convince the Flaming Fist quartermaster Arkleia Oloril to trade with you. Minthara approves +1
    • OR, If failed to convince, attack her Minthara approves +1

When you spot Fist Reynash trying to open a chest:

  • Find out that he needs gold, and then:
    • Tell him to get a grip Minthara approves +1
    • OR Intimidate or blackmail him into giving you his stash Minthara approves +1
    • Fail the Intimidation check to make him surrender his stash Minthara approves +1

Speaking to Manip Bakshi (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not):

  • Successfully detect his thoughts and pretend to be a new recruit Minthara approves +1
  • OR Tell him you've spotted Reynash on stealing Minthara approves +1, and then:
    • Ask whether it is Fists' job to catch criminals Minthara approves +1
    • OR Ask a reward for turning Reynash in Minthara approves +1
    • Attack Bakshi Minthara approves +1
    • OR Agree to leave barracks (or let him escort you out) Minthara approves +1

At the Audience Hall:

  • Speaking to Lord Amber's Bodyguard and attendants of Lady Durinbold and Lord Shattershield about the Steel Watch, say that the Steel Watchers will eventually turn on everyone. Minthara approves +1
  • Pass the Steel Watcher that confronts you at the coronation Minthara approves +1

Note: This dialogue appears only if Karlach is not in the party

  • Refuse twice to give Gortash the Netherstones. Minthara approves +1
  • Playing as The Dark Urge, when Gortash explains your previous dealings:
    • Say that you'll make Orin pay for taking your place Minthara approves +1
    • OR reply that you don't remember a thing, but the plan sounds brilliant Minthara approves +1
  • Tell Duke Ravengard that Florrick sent you, then probe his mind to discover councellor's location and tell him that Gortash is a tyrant Minthara approves +1

Lower City:

  • Tell Silfy she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette. Minthara approves +1
  • Tell Luan she's not a good salesperson when she tries to sell you a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette Minthara approves +1, then tell her to stand up straight and project her voice Minthara approves +1.

In Cazador's Dungeon:

  • Tell Sebastian you have no intention of freeing the spawn. Minthara approves +1

At the House of Grief:

  • Tell Arves you've come to collect interest on his debt. Minthara approves +1
  • Kill Viconia after interrogating her, if previously she had been knocked out in the battle. Minthara approves +1

At the Chromatic Scale:

At the Devil's Fee:

  • When first speaking with Helsik, persuade her to give you a free sample. Minthara approves +1
  • Upon returning from House of Hope, intimidate Helsik saying that you've just killed a devil in his own home.Minthara approves +1

At the Sorcerous Sundries:

Camp/Conversation

  • Let her use the Astral-Touched Tadpole. Minthara approves +5
  • Agree with her on that refugees should earn their keep. Minthara approves +3
  • When talking about Menzoberranzan, tell her that her upbringing made her strong. Minthara approves +1
  • Ask her why not to take the head of the next urchin. Minthara approves +1
  • After revealing your origin as the Dark Urge, tell her that she is also exquisite. Minthara approves +5
  • Tell Scratch he's back where he belongs after he returns back to camp.
  • Persuade Lae'zel to kneel to Vlaakith when she appears at your camp.
  • When asking her if she has seen anything like the Steel Watchers before, tell her you wish you had such devices of your own. Minthara approves +1
  • After purchasing a copy of Baldur's Mouth Gazette from a street vendor, ask her what she would do if she ran the paper. Minthara approves +3
  • After defeating Orin:
    • Tell her that fight isn't over yet OR that she's one of few people who dared to face a Chosen of Bhaal. Minthara approves +3
    • Observe that she sounds disheartened. Minthara approves +1
    • Tell her she is nothing like Orin OR that she and Orin could have been sisters. Minthara approves +5

Disapproval[edit | edit source]

The following story and dialogue choices will cause Minthara to lose approval.

Act Two[edit | edit source]

Ico knownSpells lvl 02.png Act 2 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Last Light Inn

  • Agree to help Marcus abduct Isobel.
  • Tell Isobel she is going to "meet Ketheric face-to-face" when helping Marcus abduct her.

Shadow-Cursed Lands

Gauntlet of Shar

  • Lick the suspicious spider carcass.

Moonrise Towers

  • Disagree with Minthara's plans of taking over control of the Absolute.
  • When Minthara asks why you chose to kill the tieflings in the Grove:
    • Tell her you did it to watch them suffer.
    • Tell her you enjoy killing.
    • Tell her a violent urge is the cause.

Mind Flayer Colony

  • Use the Neural Apparatus to release everyone in the Tadpoling Centre.

Camp/Conversation

  • After confessing your urge to kill as the Dark Urge, tell her that you fear that you're similar to a qu'lith quarthan. Minthara disapproves -1

Act Three[edit | edit source]

Ico knownSpells lvl 03.png Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.

Rivington

  • When passing Zethino's trial, choose answers:
    • First question: 'Pet spiders' OR 'Time with her family' Minthara disapproves -1 (either)
    • Second question: 'Drizzt Do'Urden' Minthara disapproves -1
    • Third question: 'Raiding the grove', OR 'Deny Lolth', OR 'Fall for me' Minthara disapproves -1 (either)
  • Suggest her as candidate for the stage at Dribbles the Clown's performance. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Intimidate Angry Mar'hyah while standing up for Scratch. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Intimidate or deceive Mar'hyah into leaving. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Convince Mar'hyah that Scratch is a terrible influence for the other dogs. Minthara disapproves -1
  • If Orin is impersonating Gyldro Angleiron, tell her you would never kill someone close to you. Minthara disapproves -1

Note: When playing as Karlach or Wyll origin, this option will have an unique formulation, but still take its place (line 3)

Angleiron's Cellar

Wyrm's Crossing

  • Try to hire any of the drow twins. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Give Reynash the necessary gold to pay the ferry ticket. Minthara disapproves -1

Wyrm's Rock Fortress

At the Flaming Fist barracks:

  • Give Fist Reynash 300 gold to take the ferry Minthara disapproves -1
  • Speaking to Manip Bakshi afterwards (regardless if you succeeded a check to discover Reynash's thieving attempt or not), let him arrest you Minthara disapproves -1

At the Audience Hall:

  • As the Dark Urge, during the inauguration and after Gortash explains how he has met you before, reply, "You misread me. I've come to end this evil plot"

Lower City

Stormshore Tabernacle

  • Donate to a deity at their statue.
    • Donate to Lolth. Minthara disapproves -5
    • Donate to any other deity. Minthara disapproves -1

The Counting House

  • Give Rags Deelarma begging outside the entrance a handful of coins. Minthara disapproves -1

Cazador's Dungeon

  • Tell Sebastian "We'll set you free - what else?" when he asks what will happen to the spawn. Minthara disapproves -1

House of Hope

Lower City Sewers

Camp/Conversation

  • When asking her if she has seen anything like the Steel Watchers before, tell her they need to destroy them, and put a stop to this 'revolution'. Minthara disapproves -1
  • Call Gortash a tyrant, not a saviour