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=== Item rarity changes ===
=== Item rarity and price changes ===
* {{RarityItem|Caustic Band}} rarity changed to Very Rare
Several items have had their rarities changed for Honour mode. These are:
* {{RarityItem|Ring of Flinging}} rarity changed to Rare
* {{RarityItem|Caustic Band}}: {{rarity|uncommon|very rare}}
* {{RarityItem|Returning Pike}} rarity changed to Rare
* {{RarityItem|Ring of Flinging}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
* {{RarityItem|Returning Pike}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
** Previously it was always {{RarityColor|rare|Rare}}, but now it is {{RarityColor|uncommon|Uncommon}} outside of Honour mode.
* {{RarityItem|Pearl of Power Amulet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
* {{RarityItem|The Shadespell Circlet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
Additionally, around 100 items have had their prices adjusted, sometimes significantly. Some examples include:
* {{RarityItem|Evasive Shoes}}: {{price|95|1050}}
* {{RarityItem|Fistbreaker Helm}}: {{price|60|420}}
* {{RarityItem|The Whispering Promise}}: {{price|40|85}}


=== Miscellaneous balance changes ===
=== Miscellaneous balance changes ===

Revision as of 17:27, 3 December 2023

Patch 5 released with an enormous changelog featuring major changes like the introduction of Honour difficulty and new epilogues. It also included hundreds of gameplay changes and fixes and ended with:

And many, many more fixes, improvements, tweaks, and labours of love!

This article aims to document these unlisted fixes, improvements, and tweaks.

Honour mode exclusive changes

Action economy changes

Honour mode features a number of changes to tighten the action economy.

Simplification of damage mechanics

The interaction between different damage boosts can lead to unexpected (and exploitable) behavior. In particular, damage riders could get applied numerous times in a single attack with damage rider sources (DRS) causing the attack to deal much more damage than expected. See Damage mechanics for details.

Honour mode makes sweeping changes to many items and effects to stop damage boosts from interacting with each other. Now, all (or most) damage bonuses are well-behaved and do not interact with each other. This essentially eliminated DRS as a concept in Honour mode. Many builds centered around exploiting DRS mechanics to deal hundreds (even thousands) of damage per round will not work in Honour mode.

In particular, the changes are:

Legendary actions

Item rarity and price changes

Several items have had their rarities changed for Honour mode. These are:

Additionally, around 100 items have had their prices adjusted, sometimes significantly. Some examples include:

Miscellaneous balance changes

Changes for all modes

The following are changes that apply to all difficulties and modes.

Spell changes

Ability changes

Item changes

  • Stacks of Rhapsody's Scarlet Remittance are now only gained by killing enemies. Previously, you could easily max the stacks by destroying inanimate objects like crates.
  • Diadem of Arcane Synergy now only gives Arcane Synergy Arcane Synergy when you inflict an effect on an enemy (Threatened Threatened doesn't count). Previously, it would activate whenever you inflicted any effect on anything.
  • Potential new items. These items are listed in a treasure table associated with Araj Oblodra, but it is not confirmed that they are available in-game by normal means.[Needs Verification]

Effect changes

  • Arcane Charge Arcane Charge has been significantly reworked.
    • Previously it provided bonus damage equal to your proficiency bonus to all damage against Threatened Threatened targets. It also imposed a 50% movement speed penalty while it was active.
    • Now, it provides 2 bonus damage to spells against threatened targets. There is no movement speed penalty.
    • Bided Time now only activates when hit by an enemy melee attack. Previously, it could be triggered by an allied attack (for example, if you used a Mage Hand Mage Hand to hit yourself).
  • Arcane Acuity Arcane Acuity has been slightly reworked.
    • It can now stack up to 10 times (up from 7).
    • When taking damage, you lose 2 stacks of Arcane Acuity.
    • This happens with any damage, including self-damage like Heat Heat. This means that Heat items and Hat of Fire Acuity may not work very well together.
  • Radiating Orb Radiating Orb has been slightly reworked.
    • It can now stack up to 10 times (up from 7).
    • When an affected entity makes an attack roll (whether it hits or misses), 2 stacks will be removed.
    • Luminous Armour previously had a bug where it could exceed the normal stack limit. This has been fixed.
  • Mental Fatigue Mental Fatigue has been significantly reworked.
    • It can now stack up to 7 times (previously it couldn't stack).
    • When an affected entity fails a mental Saving throw with at least 5 stacks, they are discharged, dealing 1d4Damage TypesPsychic damage.
  • Momentum Momentum can now stack 5 times (up from 4).


Minor changes