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'''Astarion''' approves decisive, inventive and cunning moves.

He '''likes''' demonstrating of power and autonomy, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking, unless he becomes the target himself. Astarion values gaining access to areas, items and/or necessary information by outwitting others. He also approves player's choices that support independence (particularly his own) or lead to obtaining power, even hypothetical. Finally, Astarion is not above cruelty (unnecessary, too), naughtiness and sick jokes. The player, however, does not have to be utterlly evil to gain his approval.

''For more information about the approval system, see [[Approval]].''

== Greetings ==

Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:

* "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."

Flirting:

* "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."

* "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"

Ascended - Partnered:

* "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"

* "Yes, love?"

Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to [[the Dark Urge]] origin. He will only say these once:

*"You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)

== Approval ==

The following story and dialogue choices will '''raise''' Astarion's [[approval]] of the player character.

'''[[Roadside Cliffs]]'''

* Speaking with the Tieflings holding [[Lae'zel]] in a cage, choose to attack them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Ask Lae'zel to say '' 'please' '' after convincing the tieflings to leave. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Refuse to help [[Zevlor]] persuade [[Kagha]] to let the tieflings stay. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}}

* Scold [[Elegis]] for being scared of a few goblins OR tell her to get to digging their own graves. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)''

'''[[Forest]]'''

* Tell [[Brynna]] and [[Andrick]] to avenge [[Edowin]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* In the [[Underground Passage]], heal [[Findal]], then tell him you are here to finish the job, and kill him. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Sunlit Wetlands]]/[[Putrid Bog]]'''

* While talking to [[Demir]] and [[Johl]] after [[Auntie Ethel]] disappears, tell them they're on their own {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Playing as a {{Class|Ranger}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, tell Demir and Johl to 'trust a more experienced soul' after Auntie Ethel disappears. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Blighted Village]]'''

* Gain entrance to the village:

** Through the southern gate - by {{Skill|Persuasion|Persuading}} the goblin guard, OR, Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, performing for him, OR starting a fight {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''At the front gate:''

* Fling worg dung at [[Sentinel Olak]]  {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires {{Skill|Athletics}} check and triggers a fight with gate guards)''

'''[[The Risen Road]]'''

* Side with [[Karlach]] during [[Wyll|Wyll's]] confrontation with her and recruit Karlach. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}}

* At the [[The_Risen_Road#Toll_House|tollhouse]], tell the merchant [[Cyrel]] that you'll take the supplies and everything else she owns. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(triggers a fight with false paladins of {{Deity|Tyr}})''

* Tell Councellor [[Florrick]] that she needs to find someone else to rescue [[Duke Ravengard]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Leave [[Benryn]] to die under the wreckage {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Zhentarim Hideout]]'''

* Kill [[Rugan]] on [[Zarys|Zarys's]] order. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Kill Rugan, if he survived Zarys's torture and your fight against other [[Zhentarim]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Underdark]]'''

* Agree to [[Defeat the Duergar Intruders]] for Sovereign [[Spaw]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* When speaking with [[Glut]] after defeating the duergar:

'''[[Grymforge]]'''

* Tell [[Morghal]] and [[Orgarth]] that them keeping slaves is not a problem for you, and that you'll just kill them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(immediately starts a fight with the duergar, both Clan Flameshade and Absolute followers)''<br>

'''[[Mountain Pass]]'''

* Attack [[Ellyka]] near the point of encounter with githyanki squad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR, Being {{SAI|Disguise Self|disguised}} as a gith, provoke her to attack you. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Crèche Y'llek]]'''

* Upon entering the Créche, first tell [[Far'aag|Gish Far'aag]] that Voss sent you; then pretend to be an avatar of [[Vlaakith]] and succeed a {{Ability check|Performance|30}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Vandalise the portrait of Vlaakith. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Save her from the device during the first phase {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(to do this, succeed a passive {{Ability check|Perception|14}}, then succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|30}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|30}})''.  

** Let her proceed to the second phase, then stop the purification {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(succeed a {{Ability check|Wisdom|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} or {{Ability check|Deception|30}})

''In the [[Crèche_Y'llek#Hatchery|Hatchery]]:''

* Refuse to hand over the artefact to W'wargaz, then convince Lae'zel to trust you by succeeding {{Ability check|Persuasion|21}} OR by reminding her of the ''zaith'isk'' (if you've learned the truth about it prior). {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)''

'''Raphael's deal'''

* When [[Raphael]] briefly takes you to the [[House of Hope]], tell the devil:

** "You're mad if you think I'll make a deal with a devil." {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* At the very first long rest, when he says he'll keep watch, answer that you'll sleep better for it  {{Approval|Astarion|+3}}

* When he asks how you'd like him to kill you, choose any way he proposes (decapitation, stabbing, or poison) {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(either option)''

* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, confess to murdering the bard {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}<br>

* Agree to sleep with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} ''(starts the romance with the spawn)''{{ref|At the Tiefling celebration, choosing sequence of options "Knowing you, it probably is", -> "Maybe, if you say please", -> "No, it's not happening"  brings '''both''' {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} and {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}. The equivalent dialogue path in the Goblin party gives {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} approval only, as of game version 4.1.1.6072089}}

:* Offer him your neck during sexual intercourse {{Approval|Astarion|+10}}

<small>'''''Note:''' Astarion might propose to spend a night together anytime in regular dialogue once his approval rate has come up to 40+, unless you have reached the point of camp celebration first''</small><br>

* At the very first long rest, tell [[Shadowheart]] to remain cautious on unfamiliar territory {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* When Shadowheart comes to the camp all not herself, choose to attack her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Pet the Owlbear Cub in your camp after it had a nightmare {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}<br>

* Agree with Astarion that using illithid powers to manipulate others could be useful. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}<br>

<small>'''''Note:''' This dialogue is available only after using 'illithid' dialogue line for the first time in your walkthrough. The line here belongs to Custom origin (Tav); other origins may have unique formulations.<!-- if you have several companions in the party, speak to Astarion first of them to gain his approval-->''</small>

''At the long rest, when Astarion's true nature comes out:''

* Say you believe him. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}}

'''[[Ruined Battlefield]]'''

** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, call yourself an escaped lunatic {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* When the [[Shadow]]s warp [[Yonas|Harper Yonas]], choose to run from the fight {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:''

* When talking to [[Dolly Thrice]], ignore her pleads two times and keep the Moonlantern. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* After saving [[Rolan]] from the Shadows, tell him to shut up and be grateful {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:''

* Talking to Jaheira for the first time, tell her that you are here on holiday. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:''

* Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} <small>'''''Note:''' Requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, including class-based options''</small>

''Witnessing [[Ketheric|Ketheric's]] trial (at the very first visit to Moonrise):''

''Dealing with [[Yurgir]] and his retinue:''

* When speaking to the orthon initially, choose to attack him straightaway. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}}

''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:''

* Talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]], succeed the passive {{Skill|Insight}} check and choose to consume her mind {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Talking to [[Halsin]]:''

* If you still haven't helped him with lifting the Shadow Curse, say the curse was always his burden, not yours {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Tell [[Arabella]] that her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* In the nighttime cutscene tell Astarion that you care about him, then choose to hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} ''(either option)''

<small>'''''Note:''' This scene appears EITHER after you defended the spawn from Araj Oblodra's molestations in Moonrise OR after you have killed Yurgir without talking to Araj first. Both these choices advance your relations into partnered stage''</small>

'''[[The Pale Elf|Companion quest]]'''

* Tell him it makes sense to ask [[Raphael]] for help with investigating his scars. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}}

* Offer her help:

** Give some coin OR some food {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option, giving food available for all characters except {{Class|Druid}})''

'''[[Sword Coast Couriers]]'''

* Report to [[Commander Lightfeather]] that his soldiers died horrible, painful deaths OR that you've found what was left of them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(depends on whether you have met [[Tara]] on the temple's roof or not)''

** OR Tell him that his soldiers were eaten by a flying cat. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Angleiron's Cellar]]'''

* Agree to [[Wulbren|Wulbren's]] proposal to blow up the [[Steel Watch Foundry]] and take the [[Runepowder Bomb]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Unique lines for {{Class|Druid}}, {{Class|Rogue}} and {{Class|Sorcerer}}''

:* OR Tell him that you'll take the bomb but use it only as a last resort. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Open Hand Temple]]'''

* Talking to [[Bill|Brother Bill]] and [[Clements|Brother Clements]], say that if [[Lorgan|Father Lorgan]] had been pickier, he might still be alive.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Agree to bear [[Help the Spirit of the Amulet|Monk Manifestation's]] curse and withstand its madness. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}}

'''Around and inside the [[Requisitioned Barn]]'''

* Tell [[Manip Nestor]] you'll '''take''' a donation. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Speak to the pig inside the barn '''without''' {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} and call her bacon {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''The smugglers' cave'''

* After defeating [[Caïros]] and his thugs, if [[Farlin]] survived, tell her that you were happy to help and ask who did you just kill. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Then ask her about the [[Stone Lord]] and say you're ruthless, too, OR that you don't play nice {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)''

''At the entrance:''

* Convince [[Klaus]] to let you in, bribing him, using {{Skill|Persuasion}}, {{Skill|Intimidation}}, {{Skill|Deception}} or any class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** {{Skill|Intimidation|Intimidate}} him to let you go with the hand {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** Use {{Skill|Deception}} to make him lower the price {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Dealing with caged beasts:''

** OR Ask whether she is hiring personnel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Agree to chase refugees out from [[Arfur's Mansion]] for half-price, and punch [[Zenovia Dawg]] when she tries to extort the full sum from you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Requires failing {{Skill|Persuasion}} roll against her first)''

** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, offer [[Arfur Gregorio]] to chase them out for free and explain that you just enjoy brutalizing the poor {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* When trying to hire both [[Sorn Orlith]] and [[Nym Orlith]]:

** Tell Astarion you would never ask such a thing from him, when he is reluctant to the idea. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Tell [[Sauceman Chorizo]] that you can show him pleasures his husband never could. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Agree to deliver the gnome leader's head to [[Manip Falcäo]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** After killing [[Wulbren]], provide his head to Falcäo {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Wyrm's Rock Fortress]]'''

* Get access into Wyrm's Rock Fortress {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} by either of following options:

** Showing the [[Archducal Coronation - Admission Pass|Admission Pass]]

'''[[Basilisk Gate Barracks]]'''

''Talking to [[Bosun Gannet]]:''

* When he instructs you about the tavern rules, ask what to do if you want to use the latrine {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''First time visiting the place:''

* If you found the group without reading any of their posters, ask [[Adrielle]] to calm down {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Call her condition hilarious {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Talking to Mayrina without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, ask how did she get herself turned into a sheep {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Talking to Adrielle, say her that if they have pissed off a hag, they're ''screwed'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Say that she protected Mayrina until now, and that's worth something {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''At the [[Baldur's Mouth]] and dealing with its employees'''

* Speaking to [[Jelliwig]] in the Baldur's Mouth basement, ask it wouldn't changing the article be delightfully naughty {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Talking to [[Falael]] outside Baldur's Mouth, muddle her count {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''The [[Crimson Draughts]]'''

* If you are partnered with Astarion and he is in the party, decline [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] invitation to come in, saying you saw how Araj made him feel {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Tell Astarion that you all can leave if he doesn't want to be around Araj {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Devil's Fee]]'''

* {{Skill|Persuasion|Persuade}} [[Helsik]] to give you first piece of information for free {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* Bargain with Helsik to provide you a free passage in to the House of Hope in exchange for a "souvenir" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Unique line for {{Class|Rogue}})''

'''The [[Elfsong Tavern]]'''

* Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, a {{Class|Rogue}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, convince [[Alan Alyth]] to lower the room price or to rent you it for free, using any available class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Requires various skill checks with DC from 18 to 20)''

''Dealing with serial killer:''

* Interrupt [[Dolor]] when he’s about to kill [[Figaro Pennygood]], saying ''"Back off. That’s my kill."'' {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''Talking to [[Golbraith Stredivas]]'''

* Ask him whether his son needs any help {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Unique line for  {{Race|Duergar}})''

** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, say you're almost impressed by a surface dweller who hunts illithids {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Dealing with [[Bugthimble]] at the "M.Kurwin" grave:''

''Talking to [[Big Huido]]:''

* Talking to [[Skittle]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:

** Call him a "''rat''-ical mercantile rodent" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[Highberry's Home]]'''

* If you successfully detected poisoned wine at the Wine Festival, refuse to drink but tell [[Roger Highberry|Roger]] and  [[Cora Highberry]] you hope they enjoy it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

<small>''''' Note:''' This option requires successful passive {{Ability check|Medicine|18}}, or {{Ability check|Perception|10}} for a {{Class|Barbarian}} character''</small>

'''The [[House of Grief]]'''

* In front of the House of Grief, deceive [[Arves]] into giving you money (with or without using {{SAI|Detect Thoughts}} on him first) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

<small>''''' Note:''' Both options require {{Ability check|Deception|20}}''</small>

* Without talking to Mirie first, speak to [[Morann]] and convince him to let you proceed inside the Mapping Chamber through {{Skill|Persuasion}}, {{Skill|Intimidation}} or {{Skill|Deception}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* After defeating [[Viconia DeVir]], choose to kill her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Speaking to [[Hope]] or to her spirit:''

* Upon arriving to the House, when her projection flickers, say the last thing you needed was a mad apparition {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''If [[Oskar Fevras]] '''was not''' saved in [[Act One]]:''

* Speaking with [[Sir Gorran Penghyst]] and [[Lord Delwaer Jeth]], tell them to stop or you will stick both their heads through the bloody painting {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Requires {{Ability check|Intimidation|18}} roll)''

''Talking to [[Havkelaag]]:''

'''[[Lower City Sewers]]'''

* Talking to [[Lorna Esthelian]], tell her that her boyfriend will show up eventually {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

* In the [[Abandoned Cistern]], agree with the [[Emperor]] when it refuses to save [[Minsc]] from the [[Absolute]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Talking to [[Aradin Beno|Aradin]] near the entrance:''

* Successfully {{Skill|Deception|deceive}} him, saying you haven’t found the [[Aylin|Nightsong]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Deceive Aradin, saying that you have let the Nightsong go {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

** OR Use {{Skill|Intimidation}} or {{Skill|Persuasion}} to make him stop pursuing the Nightsong {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''Talking to [[Lorroakan]] '''before''' resolving [[Aylin|Dame Aylin’s]] fate:''

''Talking to [[Tamia Holzt]], if she spotted you in the Foundry:''

* Succeed a {{Ability check|Religion|7}} and pretend to be a relief crew for Banite guards {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''Other locations in Lower City'''

* Meeting [[Olfaith Olumssdottir]] for the first time, ask him what you must do to become an ''avatar'' of slaughter {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} <br>

''Speaking with [[Sarevok Anchev]]:''

''After the spawn assault:''

* Agree that it doesn't matter whether the other spawn have to die in the Rite. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

''If Astarion has completed the [[The_Pale_Elf#Outcomes|Rite of Profane Ascension]]''

* Agree to become his spawn AND to bed him ''"one last time, for the road"''. {{Approval|Astarion|+3}}

<small>'''''Note:''' Without sexual intercourse, no approval is gained''</small><br>

* When [[Vlaakith]] emerges at camp as a projection, convince [[Lae'zel]] to remain loyal to her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}  

* When [[Jaheira]] scolds [[Minsc]] after his recruitment, tell her that she could have lost the trail of the cult {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}

'''[[The Pale Elf|Companion quest]]'''

* When the party is attacked by other Cazador's spawn at night:''

** {{Skill|Deception|Deceive}} [[Leon]] and [[Aurelia]], telling that they should side with Astarion. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(if you know about the Rite)''

The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose [[approval]].

'''[[Emerald Grove]]/[[The Hollow]]'''

* Promise [[Zevlor]] you will talk to [[Kagha]] about stopping the ritual {{Approval|Astarion|-1}}