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::::There's nothing to be done as they made up their mind but the way it's been handled has been really off. [[Special:Contributions/163.53.145.5|163.53.145.5]] 14:46, 30 July 2024 (CEST) | ::::There's nothing to be done as they made up their mind but the way it's been handled has been really off. [[Special:Contributions/163.53.145.5|163.53.145.5]] 14:46, 30 July 2024 (CEST) | ||
:::::Adding that I very much want to support this and want to be proven wrong. I wish Taylan all the best. [[Special:Contributions/163.53.145.5|163.53.145.5]] 14:50, 30 July 2024 (CEST) | :::::Adding that I very much want to support this and want to be proven wrong. I wish Taylan all the best. [[Special:Contributions/163.53.145.5|163.53.145.5]] 14:50, 30 July 2024 (CEST) | ||
::::::Thank you for the good wishes. I just double-checked the initial Reddit announcement to make sure I'm not dreaming. Let me nerd over the numbers a bit. (Intention isn't to be argumentative or "prove you wrong," I'm just making sure that I look at it objectively and not fooling myself.) | |||
::::::* I read the top comment with 561 upvotes as being supportive, just cautioning me about pitfalls. | |||
::::::* The second one with 460 upvotes is also supportive, conditional on the ads not being intrusive. | |||
::::::* Same with the third, with 112 upvotes. | |||
::::::* Fourth with 109 upvotes expresses that the person is conflicted, but they then reply to themselves clarifying that they'll continue contributing to the wiki either way. | |||
::::::* Fifth with 46 is supportive. | |||
::::::* Sixth with 42 says it would be OK on the condition that the ads aren't intrusive. | |||
::::::* Seventh with 39 reads as conflicted, but not outright critical of the decision. ("wouldn't begrudge you") | |||
::::::* Eighth with 33 could be read as the first one that's directly critical. | |||
::::::So, the supportive comments seem to outweigh the critical ones by a factor of >10x in upvotes. I'm not going to count the number of supportive vs. critical comments (disregarding upvotes) but I don't think that's necessary, because it can create a false impression due to the common phenomenon that critical people are more likely to raise a voice. From a quick scroll-through, it still looks like a clear majority that are accepting/supportive though. | |||
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::::::So, my impression has been that the overwhelming majority of the BG3 community at large are either explicitly, or silently, supportive or accepting. Maybe I should use the word "accepting" rather than "supportive" to be more accurate. (Of course, few people would outright say "yes, definitely put up ads." Nobody loves ads. There actually have been a handful of people who said it though, not because they love ads but because they say "you deserve it.") Please tell me if you think I'm missing something significant. | |||
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::::::It's been a bit more mixed among those who have been, or still are, very active as contributors. I value their opinion greatly and am trying to make sure I don't disappoint them. | |||
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::::::A few who are critical may not be aware just how much financial security this is going to provide me. Maybe some even think I'm rich and just greedy for more, I don't know. The thing is: Although I'm not going to write sob stories because I know there's lots of people in the world who have it a lot worse than me, there's still a middle-point between "struggling so bad you may end up starving on the streets" and "being rich and never having to worry about money." I sit somewhere between those extremes, have mild financial anxiety every once in a while, and could ''really'' use the ease of mind I'm going to get from this. I don't have too big a safety net to rely on if some things go bad in life (unexpected health issues etc.); instead, I actually have family members with health issues who financially depend on me, permanently. | |||
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::::::Some may also not be aware just how much money I'm intending to redistribute... Maybe they think I'll send the top contributors a few hundred bucks and leave it at that. The problem with this one is that I simply can't make any promises before the money actually starts to come in, but the forecasts are ''extremely'' good. A lot of people probably don't understand that I'll actually be able to redistribute a ''ton'' of money, and still have enough left for really solid financial security, because it all sounds too good to be true. I would advise people to look a little into how much money high-quality ads can apparently bring per one million page views, and consider that we have about 40 million page views per month. I'm still somewhat in disbelief myself, but it's looking more and more legit as I research it. | |||
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::::::As for the skepticism regarding whether the site will remain clean: Sure, I get it. If you don't know me very well, I guess it makes sense from your perspective. I don't know if there's anything I can do to convince people? I have average CHA at best and I probably don't even have proficiency in persuasion, so I guess all I can say is wait and see. | |||
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::::::Sorry, this turned into a wall of text... I do genuinely care about people's opinions though. [[User:Taylan|Taylan]] ([[User talk:Taylan|talk]]) 17:04, 30 July 2024 (CEST) | |||