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:::::[[User:Arikel|Arikel]] ([[User talk:Arikel|talk]]) 12:50, 19 July 2024 (CEST)
:::::[[User:Arikel|Arikel]] ([[User talk:Arikel|talk]]) 12:50, 19 July 2024 (CEST)
::::::So I actually reviewed your wiki entry back in May, considered trying to report it because it was incorrect and heavily bias, asked a few people with notes/scripts/saves to verify what you've written, and now we're here. [[User:Natasy|Natasy]] ([[User talk:Natasy|talk]]) 19:30, 19 July 2024 (CEST)
::::::So I actually reviewed your wiki entry back in May, considered trying to report it because it was incorrect and heavily bias, asked a few people with notes/scripts/saves to verify what you've written, and now we're here. [[User:Natasy|Natasy]] ([[User talk:Natasy|talk]]) 19:30, 19 July 2024 (CEST)
::::::There's no need for hateful comments. But I will attempt to guide you through where you're incorrect so your writing will be better in the future:
::::::Subjective: They will never be an independent power player while remaining aside him.
::::::Subjective: he does not see them as an independent person, too, but instead one that needs to be totally controlled.
::::::"Assuming all this, he's aware and sure of his exclusiveness, therefore, all others are at least one step lower by default" this is the DND definition of all vampires. Selectively applying it only to one path is bias.
::::::Subjective (+ a bonus untrue!): Spawn-Tav's lines in the epilogue show that they literally hang on his words (if this formula suits you better) - for all his obvious arrogance and probable cruelty, this Tav almost loses an ability to think over their relations critically.
::::::Subjective (+ bonus untrue!): Astarion does ask what they would like to do first, but makes it clear that it will be him who pulls the strings, while the player character is the one he willingly shares his conquests with, still the second number, always.
::::::Subjective and unnecessarily judgemental: "If you suck up to him..."
::::::It is very clear from this how you personally feel about one path. That should not be evident in your writing. In the wiki itself you have chosen to include heavily and nearly *only negative* dialogue wheels and interactions, with your personal interpretation of what they mean for one path, while including *only positive* dialogue and options for the other.
::::::You have excluded the possibility of Astarion attacking the party if the PC stops his ritual. You've excluded his reaction to breaking up if he misses the ritual. You've excluded his dialogue about not being a hero in the epilogue if he remains a spawn. There are *very many* things you excluded on both ends, and your wiki entries are very misleading. The edits made where non-opinion focused, included relevant *and accurate* details for both paths, clarified much of your muddy and emotional wording, and made the entire wiki page feel more professional and neutral. Your writing is not "fact verified", it is you posing arguments to bolster your own opinions via the guise of "analysis" and it's disingenuous at best.
::::::Please allow others to fix your mistakes where you make them and provide more neutral wording. Your wiki entries are inaccurate. You are not the lore gatekeeper. Others are allowed to improve issues. [[User:Natasy|Natasy]] ([[User talk:Natasy|talk]]) 19:34, 19 July 2024 (CEST)
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