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Patch 5 released with an enormous changelog featuring major changes like the introduction of [[Difficulty#Honour|Honour Mode]] and new epilogues. It also included hundreds of gameplay changes and fixes and ended with:
Patch 5 released with an enormous changelog featuring major changes like the introduction of [[Difficulty#Honour|Honour mode]] and new epilogues. It also included hundreds of gameplay changes and fixes and ended with:
{{quote|And many, many more fixes, improvements, tweaks, and labours of love!}}
{{quote|And many, many more fixes, improvements, tweaks, and labours of love!}}
This article aims to document these unlisted fixes, improvements, and tweaks.
 
The aim of this article is to document these unlisted fixes, improvements, and tweaks.


== Honour mode ==
== Honour mode ==
=== Action economy changes ===
=== Action economy ===
Honour mode features a number of changes to tighten the action economy.
Honour mode features a number of changes to tighten the action economy.
* Extra actions granted through {{Cond|Hastened}} or {{RarityItem|Elixir of Bloodlust}} no longer benefit from {{SAI|Extra Attack}}.
* Extra actions granted through {{Cond|Hastened}} or {{RarityItem|Elixir of Bloodlust}} no longer benefit from {{SAI|Extra Attack}}.
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=== Simplification of damage mechanics ===
=== Simplification of damage mechanics ===
{{hatnote|See [[damage mechanics]] for details.}}
The interaction between different damage boosts can lead to unexpected (and exploitable) behavior.  
The interaction between different damage boosts can lead to unexpected (and exploitable) behavior.  
In particular, '''damage riders''' could get applied numerous times in a single attack with '''damage rider sources''' ('''DRS''') causing the attack to deal much more damage than expected. See [[Damage mechanics]] for details.
In particular, damage riders could get applied numerous times in a single attack with damage rider sources (DRS) causing the attack to deal much more damage than expected.


Honour mode makes sweeping changes to many items and effects to stop damage boosts from interacting with each other. Now, all (or most) damage bonuses are well-behaved and do not interact with each other.
Honour mode makes sweeping changes to many items and effects to stop damage boosts from interacting with each other. Now, all (or most) damage bonuses are well-behaved and do not interact with each other.
This essentially eliminated '''DRS''' as a concept in Honour mode.
This essentially eliminated DRS as a concept in Honour mode.
Many builds centered around exploiting '''DRS''' mechanics to deal hundreds (even thousands) of damage per round will not work in Honour mode.
Many builds centered around exploiting DRS mechanics to deal hundreds (even thousands) of damage per round will not work in Honour mode.


In particular, the changes are:
In particular, the changes are:
* {{SAI|Phalar Aluve: Shriek}} no longer creates a separate damage instance ('''DRS''') for every damage source. Instead, it adds bonus damage to each damage source.
* {{SAI|Phalar Aluve: Shriek}} no longer creates a separate damage instance (DRS) for every damage source. Instead, it adds bonus damage to each damage source.
* {{SAI|Tavern Brawler}} no longer creates a separate damage instance on throws.
* {{SAI|Tavern Brawler}} no longer creates a separate damage instance on throws.
* The weapons {{RarityItem|Assassin's Touch}}, {{RarityItem|Deep Delver}}, {{RarityItem|Dragon's Grasp}}, {{RarityItem|Exterminator's Axe}}, {{RarityItem|Firestoker}}, {{RarityItem|Shortsword of First Blood}}, {{RarityItem|Blooded Greataxe}}, {{RarityItem|Render of Mind and Body}}, {{RarityItem|Sword of Life Stealing}}, {{RarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}, and {{RarityItem|Duellist's Prerogative}} all have had their '''DRS''' bonus damage removed and replaced with ordinary damage boosts.
* The weapons {{RarityItem|Assassin's Touch}}, {{RarityItem|Deep Delver}}, {{RarityItem|Dragon's Grasp}}, {{RarityItem|Exterminator's Axe}}, {{RarityItem|Firestoker}}, {{RarityItem|Shortsword of First Blood}}, {{RarityItem|Blooded Greataxe}}, {{RarityItem|Render of Mind and Body}}, {{RarityItem|Sword of Life Stealing}}, {{RarityItem|Crimson Mischief}}, and {{RarityItem|Duellist's Prerogative}} all have had their DRS bonus damage removed and replaced with ordinary damage boosts.
** A sole weapon has survived the purge: {{RarityItem|Rat Bat}} (''Editors note: Nobody tell Larian'').
** {{RarityItem|Rat Bat}} still has its DRS bonus.
* The abilities {{SAI|Sneak Attack}}, {{SAI|Colossus Slayer}}, {{SAI|Divine Smite}}, {{SAI|Divine Strike}} have added checks to ensure that they do not receive extra bonus damage that should only be applied to the base attack.{{Verify}}
* The abilities {{SAI|Sneak Attack}}, {{SAI|Colossus Slayer}}, {{SAI|Divine Smite}}, {{SAI|Divine Strike}} have added checks to ensure that they do not receive extra bonus damage that should only be applied to the base attack.{{Verify}}


=== Legendary actions ===
=== Legendary actions ===
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/BG3Builds/comments/189cft6/honour_mode_boss_fight_changes/ Topic is being discussed at this reddit post.]
* [[Bulette]] has legendary actions listed in the game files, but does not currently seem to be able to use them.{{Verify}}
* [[Bulette]] has legendary actions listed in the game files, but does not currently seem to be able to use them.{{Verify}}


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* {{RarityItem|Pearl of Power Amulet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
* {{RarityItem|Pearl of Power Amulet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
* {{RarityItem|The Shadespell Circlet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
* {{RarityItem|The Shadespell Circlet}}: {{rarity|uncommon|rare}}
Additionally, around 100 items have had their prices adjusted, sometimes significantly. Some examples include:
Additionally, around 100 items have had their prices adjusted, sometimes significantly. Some examples include:
* {{RarityItem|Evasive Shoes}}: {{price|95|1050}}
* {{RarityItem|Evasive Shoes}}: {{price|95|1050}}
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=== Ability changes ===
=== Ability changes ===
* {{SAI|Primal Stampede}} now has a {{Saving throw|CON}} to avoid {{Cond|Prone}}. The DC is 10 + [[Strength]] modifier.
* {{SAI|Primal Stampede}} now allows a Constitution saving throw to avoid {{Cond|Prone}}. The DC is 10 + Strength modifier.
* {{SAI|Aspect of the Beast (Chimpanzee)}} now has a {{Saving throw|CON}} to avoid being {{Cond|Blinded}}. The DC is 8 + [[proficiency bonus]] + [[Dexterity]] modifier.
* {{SAI|Aspect of the Beast (Chimpanzee)}} now has a Constitution saving throw to avoid being {{Cond|Blinded}}. The DC is 8 + [[proficiency bonus]] + Dexterity modifier.


=== Item changes ===
=== Item changes ===
* Stacks of {{RarityItem|Rhapsody}}'s '''Scarlet Remittance''' are now only gained by killing enemies. Previously, you could easily max the stacks by destroying inanimate objects like crates.
* Stacks of {{RarityItem|Rhapsody}}'s Scarlet Remittance are now only gained by killing enemies. Previously, you could easily max the stacks by destroying inanimate objects like crates.
* {{RarityItem|Diadem of Arcane Synergy}} now only gives {{Cond|Arcane Synergy}} when you inflict an effect on an enemy ({{Cond|Threatened}} doesn't count). Previously, it would activate whenever you inflicted any effect on anything.
* {{RarityItem|Diadem of Arcane Synergy}} now only gives {{Cond|Arcane Synergy}} when you inflict an effect on an enemy ({{Cond|Threatened}} doesn't count). Previously, it would activate whenever you inflicted any effect on anything.
* Potential new items. These items are listed in a treasure table associated with [[Araj Oblodra]], but it is not confirmed that they are available in-game by normal means.{{Verify}}
* Potential new items. These items are listed in a treasure table associated with [[Araj Oblodra]], but it is not confirmed that they are available in-game by normal means.{{Verify}}
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=== Effect changes ===
=== Effect changes ===
* {{Cond|Arcane Charge}} has been significantly reworked.
* {{Cond|Arcane Charge}} has been significantly reworked.
** Previously it provided bonus damage equal to your [[proficiency bonus]] to ''all'' damage against {{Cond|Threatened}} targets. It also imposed a 50% [[movement speed]] penalty while it was active.
** Previously it provided bonus damage equal to your [[proficiency bonus]] to {{em|all}} damage against {{Cond|Threatened}} targets. It also imposed a 50% [[movement speed]] penalty while it was active.
** Now, it provides 2 bonus damage to spells against threatened targets. There is no movement speed penalty.
** Now, it provides 2 bonus damage to spells against threatened targets. There is no movement speed penalty.
** {{RarityItem|Bided Time}} now only activates when hit by an enemy melee attack. Previously, it could be triggered by an allied attack (for example, if you used a {{SAI|Mage Hand}} to hit yourself).
** {{RarityItem|Bided Time}} now only activates when hit by an enemy melee attack. Previously, it could be triggered by an allied attack (for example, if you used a {{SAI|Mage Hand}} to hit yourself).
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