User talk:84.122.126.28

Good job

Your edit on the timeline with Astarion was well done and well explained, thank you. Raelin (talk) 19:00, 5 January 2025 (CET)

Thanks, that's very kind :) 84.122.126.28 19:13, 5 January 2025 (CET)

There are several other timeline edits, probaby done by the same contributor, that may contain similar unproven and/or erroneous assertions. If I may humbly ask, could you look at those too and adjust them as you see needed? A search for "NR" on the wiki may pull most, if not all, of them up... Raelin (talk) 19:21, 5 January 2025 (CET)

I can take a look, although my area of expertise is Astarion. That being said, I can't recall NR being used throughout the game, so any other related edits might be fandom presumptions as well.

I saw the latest personality edit- I won't edit it back but I wanted to note that I feel like AA does pretty clearly strive for world domination even if he never outright says "I want to conquer the world" (he wants to create a city of spawn and cast a fog over the world for his children, tells Tav that they could have "everything", that "the world is ours for the taking", and similarly wants to subdue the netherbrain to be Absolute for reasons that strike me as very world-conquery. When he's told by Durge that they will spare him when they conquer the world, he says "Not if I get there first", etc etc). However I concede that in the epilogue it's implied he's contained to conquering a city, for now (he also says there's an entire world out there ready for the taking, Tav can recognise that Astarion is aiming to conquer the world which he will acknowledge with appreciation, and when Mindflayer Tav says they're thinking about taking over the world Astarion refers to it as a mutual interest.)

That being said, I'd also advice to avoid language that might seem inflammatory to folks who like AA. I'm not part of them but certain language I think is bound to create more editing wars. 84.122.126.28 19:42, 5 January 2025 (CET)

Just checked, and the OG NR poster only did another edit, seen here: https://bg3.wiki/w/index.php?title=Vellioth&diff=prev&oldid=257157

The edit is again extremely subjective, making assumptions instead of stating ingame facts that already let the reader conclude certain things, which I'm not a fan of. I'll remove it. 84.122.126.28 19:47, 5 January 2025 (CET)

Thank you. I will give Astarion some more thought and see what I can come up with. I did not mean to step on your toes, and don't mean to cause offence. Raelin (talk) 19:58, 5 January 2025 (CET)

also, the honest and thoughtful feedback is greatly appreciated.  :') Raelin (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2025 (CET)

Please consider creating an account. Even if you don't, I think the wiki could benefit from more of what you do. Raelin (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2025 (CET)

Astarion Cards & Noble - Editing back & forth

Hi there!

We've noticed you and another user engaging in back and forth when it comes to the question, if Astarion is a noble and the importance of the Secret Lair Cards. We are somewhat indifferent when it comes to the inclusion of the card art, this is a topic which can be either discussed via the Discord here or via the Talk page (Tho I see that you started a thread already, to which i'll reply shortly).

The other topic is Astarion being classified as a "Noble" - this is something that is not really up for debate, as in EA his background was Noble AND Astarions VA has called him a Noble in various interviews before.

In general, editing back and forth is not a great practice & issues should be resolved via the means lined out earlier.

If you have any questions, reply here, start a discussion on my talk page or reach out to me via Discord. ~Valk Valk (talk) 07:44, 9 January 2025 (CET)

Hello! Thanks for the advice- I /think/ I only edited that section regarding that topic once (in two separate edits, but because I didn't see the connection that was trying to be made there since the sections aren't linked as of right now) and then opened the discussion topic after seeing the other user's new edit. As for the specificities of its canon- I elaborated my opinion a bit more on the discussion topic.

I was thinking of changing the way that information is included- the way it is right now it doesn't seem to be trying to source itself as the user pointed out. Should I not do that? My idea was to include the noble tidbit in a more appropriate spot -like his history section- and adding a reference to the advertisement* while removing the cards section and instead adding all the card pictures to his gallery, to keep it clean.

*Or, if you wish, Neil's statements as well, although (and I know this is my personal opinion, which I think would be contested by most people) I think it'd set a bad precedent considering some of the statements he's made that aren't accurate to the game. 84.122.126.28 13:16, 9 January 2025 (CET)

Please consider creating an account, that would make discussing much easier.

And it would be good, if you use the https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Talk:Astarion page for further discussing the topic, in case you not already used it. Hawkeye (talk) 14:20, 9 January 2025 (CET)

Thanks for your reply- I had indeed already used it. I have an account (AFrigidDoor), I just happen to be very lazy when it comes to logging in since it's not needed to edit. I will log on now! 84.122.126.28 14:33, 9 January 2025 (CET)