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Regarding the tieflings still dying if you leave Chapter One without resolving the grove quests, I know from my playthroughs that Minthara will eventually remark that she has plausible deniability for her responsibility in the grove attack, since she was under the influence of the Absolute, however the player has no such justification. I'm curious if she still says this line if she is recruited without the player directly killing the tieflings. Otonashi Ayana (talk) 00:34, 16 August 2023 (CEST)
Karlach. Underdark.
No romancing Karlach as she can't get her second upgrade unless the sheep method is used. Not sure how far she goes without the second upgrade.
Seems Minthara won't leave the Shadow lands until Act 2 is finished. I left some quests undone in the Underdark, thinking it would be fun bringing her along. I'm guessing she won't go back to the other areas too. The plus side is getting the exp before recruiting her. — unsigned comment by 76.173.144.97 (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2023
Zombie Minthara
Since I don't have the permission to create pages on the wiki, here are the screenshots for the (hopefully soon-to-be) new pages Zombie Minthara https://i.imgur.com/fJweTgR.png and Zombie Dror Ragzlin https://i.imgur.com/MOjVpla.png
"Good" recruitment
Since patch 5, it seems Minthara can be recruited even if the tieflings and Grove is saved by simply knocking her out, she would then be found in Moonrise Towers as normal. I think more testing by the community is required, perhaps it would be wise to keep the recruitment section without it until it's properly confirmed by more people. Thoughts?
From patch notes: "Minthara will still appear at Moonrise Towers if she was knocked out in Act I." Emeff (talk) 03:28, 4 December 2023 (CET)
From what I've seen from player reports this generally works as long as she's knocked out while temporarily hostile, and that you complete the entire goblin quest/rescue Halsin before long resting. You cannot do the Grove battle as that will make her permanantly hostile. The way to check that this works is to come back to her chamber after a long rest and confirm that she's still alive and standing in the same spot.
When spawning her at Moonrise the game checks that the DB variables DB_PermaDefeated(S_GOB_DrowCommander_ and DB_GlobalFlag(DEN_AttackOnDen_State_DenVictory_ are unset. Basically this indicates that Minthara is not permadead (knocking her out while she's permanantly hostile will set this, so she must be temporarily hostile) and that the Tieflings didn't win the Grove battle. If the check passes she should appear. My save had an interesting bug where DEN_AttackOnDen_State_DenVictory_ was set despite having no Grove battle (knocked out Minthara without talking to her) and I had to remove that flag in the console to get her to appear at Moonrise. 104.28.198.68 18:19, 3 January 2024 (CET)