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== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==
== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==


== Permanently acquiring Shovel ==
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)


==Notes==


= Permanently acquiring Shovel =
[[https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)|Shovel]]
===Open Questions===
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?
===Needs Verification===
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).  
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).  
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*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.  
*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.  
*A character can temporarily respecc  for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.  
*A character can temporarily respecc  for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.  
===Warlocks===
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if they summons her from the scroll, use disguise self and talk to her again - seems redundant.
{| class="wikitable"
|+ current test results
|-
! summon from scroll !! talk to Shovel again !! result
|-
| Wyll || disguised Wyll || ✖
|-
| disguised Wyll || Wyll || ✔
|-
| Wyll || Wyll || ✔
|-
| Sorcerer || Wyll || ✖
|-
| Sorcerer || disguised Wyll || ✖
|-
| random other class || Wyll || ✔
|}
===Sorcerer===
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if he summons her from the scroll, disguises himself and talks to her again - that did not work consistently and needs further testing.
**Wyll -> disguised Wyll ✖
**disguised Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Random -> Wyll ✔
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> Wyll ✖
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> disguised Wyll ✖
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?

Revision as of 08:10, 29 January 2024

Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly.

Permanently acquiring Shovel

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Open Questions

  • Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?


Needs Verification

  • You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
  • Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).
  • If a wizard scribed the spell and follows some dialogue rules, another caster can then also learn to summon Shovel permanently.
  • This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.
  • A character can temporarily respecc for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.


Warlocks

  • Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if they summons her from the scroll, use disguise self and talk to her again - seems redundant.
current test results
summon from scroll talk to Shovel again result
Wyll disguised Wyll
disguised Wyll Wyll
Wyll Wyll
Sorcerer Wyll
Sorcerer disguised Wyll
random other class Wyll


Sorcerer

  • Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell