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== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==
== Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly. ==


== Permanently acquiring Shovel ==
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)


==== Permanently acquiring Shovel ====
==Notes==
 
*You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
*Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).
*If a wizard scribed the spell and follows some dialogue rules, another caster can then also learn to summon Shovel permanently.
*This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.
*A character can temporarily respecc  for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.
*Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
*Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if he summons her from the scroll, disguises himself and talks to her again - that did not work consistently and needs further testing.
**Wyll -> disguised Wyll ✖
**disguised Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Wyll -> Wyll ✔
**Random -> Wyll ✔
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> Wyll ✖
**(Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> disguised Wyll ✖
*Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?

Revision as of 23:34, 28 January 2024

Well, I mean... kind of? It's a long story, honestly.

Permanently acquiring Shovel

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Shovel_(familiar)

Notes

  • You can't learn to summon Shovel during the first conversation if you cast the spell from the scroll.
  • Some classes can learn it if they speak with Shovel after that. But not always and I haven't figured out why (yet?).
  • If a wizard scribed the spell and follows some dialogue rules, another caster can then also learn to summon Shovel permanently.
  • This worked with wizard, warlock and sorcerer - subclasses made no difference in my tests.
  • A character can temporarily respecc for this method and the spell stays available even when changing to a non caster again.
  • Sorcerer have class specific dialogue options when summoning Shovel from the scroll but none of them led to learning the spell
  • Warlocks can sometimes learn Shovel if he summons her from the scroll, disguises himself and talks to her again - that did not work consistently and needs further testing.
    • Wyll -> disguised Wyll ✖
    • disguised Wyll -> Wyll ✔
    • Wyll -> Wyll ✔
    • Random -> Wyll ✔
    • (Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> Wyll ✖
    • (Wild Magic) Sorcerer -> disguised Wyll ✖
  • Is it possible to rename Shovel after acquiring the permanent ability to summon her?