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In the blue dragon born sub race the cone breath attack is a line breath attack but the game has a typo in it that says that it is a cone attack {{unsigned2|2023.12.20|216.56.128.66}} | In the blue dragon born sub race the cone breath attack is a line breath attack but the game has a typo in it that says that it is a cone attack {{unsigned2|2023.12.20|216.56.128.66}} | ||
: Hi! Fixed, thanks! [[User:T-Furan|T-Furan]] ([[User talk:T-Furan|talk]]) 16:04, 20 December 2023 (CET) | : Hi! Fixed, thanks! [[User:T-Furan|T-Furan]] ([[User talk:T-Furan|talk]]) 16:04, 20 December 2023 (CET) | ||
== The note about these being species is objectively false == | |||
Currently, the page notes "Note: Baldur's Gate 3 does not use the term "race" the way it's used in common English. Races in the game are more akin to species.". That is not objective data for a Wiki. It is objectively false in the Forgotten Realms: these Humanoid races can reproduce between each other, including Dwarf/Human, Dwarf/Orc, Elf/Orc, you name it (not sure about Gnomes though). Whereas species generally do not reproduce well together and have less "mixity". | |||
The company ''Wizard of the Coast'' switched to the term species because the term race is loaded with real-life issues. Calling them species is oddly not a progress nor better at all: not only is reproduction sometimes impossible between species, or generate children who cannot reproduce, but having only "pure" Elves, in reaction to the fact that the term "half-Elf" can be pejorative, is ironically not a progress. Valuing mixed heritages would be the true progressive approach! The solution to avoid the term is well known from many RPG games, who instead write heritages, mixed heritages, origins, etc. | |||
Reminder: in real life, there is only one Human race (Homo Sapiens) and species. | |||
Anyhow, back to the topic of BG3 : they are literally races of the Humanoid species. You can therefore imagine why that note should probably be removed. | |||
Revision as of 02:29, 14 October 2024
a typo in the blue dragon born subrace
In the blue dragon born sub race the cone breath attack is a line breath attack but the game has a typo in it that says that it is a cone attack — unsigned comment by 216.56.128.66 (talk) 2023.12.20
The note about these being species is objectively false
Currently, the page notes "Note: Baldur's Gate 3 does not use the term "race" the way it's used in common English. Races in the game are more akin to species.". That is not objective data for a Wiki. It is objectively false in the Forgotten Realms: these Humanoid races can reproduce between each other, including Dwarf/Human, Dwarf/Orc, Elf/Orc, you name it (not sure about Gnomes though). Whereas species generally do not reproduce well together and have less "mixity".
The company Wizard of the Coast switched to the term species because the term race is loaded with real-life issues. Calling them species is oddly not a progress nor better at all: not only is reproduction sometimes impossible between species, or generate children who cannot reproduce, but having only "pure" Elves, in reaction to the fact that the term "half-Elf" can be pejorative, is ironically not a progress. Valuing mixed heritages would be the true progressive approach! The solution to avoid the term is well known from many RPG games, who instead write heritages, mixed heritages, origins, etc.
Reminder: in real life, there is only one Human race (Homo Sapiens) and species.
Anyhow, back to the topic of BG3 : they are literally races of the Humanoid species. You can therefore imagine why that note should probably be removed.