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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''<br> | ||
* | ''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:'' | ||
* Talking to [[Balthazar]], successfully pretend to be a thrall {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(This option is available only if you helped the necromancer reach the [[Nightsong]] and let him take her to [[Ketheric]])'' | |||
''At the [[Mind_Flayer_Colony#Morgue|Morgue]]:'' | |||
* Speak to [[Chop]] and ask why not to send him to all other butchered victims {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''In the [[Tadpoling Centre]]:'' | |||
* Choose to release pod captives {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | |||
'''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]'''<br> | |||
''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | |||
* When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]] and seize the cult leadership, say eradicating the Elder Brain may be wiser {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* OR Declare you will be the saviours of Baldur's Gate, and then say her vision of future is shaped by violence {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* OR Say that her idea is madness, and you need to eradicate the cult ''and'' the brain {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'' Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, agree to play together a show for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Prompt her to play for them alone {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Aylin]], if you let [[Balthazar]] take her from Shadowfell:'' | |||
* If [[Isobel]] survived, tell them you must apologize to Aylin {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If Isobel died, tell Aylin your betrayal was a strategic move {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* Tell her you're glad they are safe, and mention that [[Zevlor]] did his best {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say they are better off without Zevlor {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Tell Cerys that other will look up to her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Say you couldn't have done it without Jaheira's help {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Then ask her not to speak ill of the dead (i.e. Zevlor) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say "Good riddance" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Tell her the [[Nightsong]] is the real hero {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
* Say people get paid for doing jobs {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Rogue}} character has a unique line here)'' | |||
** When she answers that she has no money, say you were joking {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to others:'' | |||
* Talk to [[Halsin]] and, if you eliminated the curse, ask him to join you {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Speak to [[Jaheira]] and agree to have her in the party (either joining you now or waiting at the camp) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Tell [[Mattis]] about [[Mol|Mol's]] eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then say that death happens {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''Camp/Conversation''' | '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
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'''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]'''<br> | '''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]'''<br> | ||
''Near Pedestal of Reckoning and through [[Gauntlet_of_Shar#Trials_of_Shar|Shar's trials]]:'' | ''Near Pedestal of Reckoning and through [[Gauntlet_of_Shar#Trials_of_Shar|Shar's trials]]:'' | ||
* When Shadowheart speaks of her need to go through the trials, agree to help her if you can {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | * When Shadowheart speaks of her need to go through the trials and become a [[Dark Justiciar]], agree to help her if you can {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
* At the beginning of each trial let her start it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(Works, too, if you first have pushed her aside but then changed your mind)'' | * At the beginning of each trial let her start it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} ''(Works, too, if you first have pushed her aside but then changed your mind)'' | ||
* At the Verge of the Shadows suggest to move on {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | * At the Verge of the Shadows suggest to move on {{Approval|Shadowheart|+5}} | ||
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** Solve the second riddle {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}--> | ** Solve the second riddle {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}--> | ||
'''[[Lower City]]''' | |||
* At | '''[[Lower City]]'''<br> | ||
''At the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]]:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Murphy|Fist Murphy]], ask why he is standing on one leg, and then: | |||
** Outrage at him for stealing from people he is supposed to protect {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Pretend to push him off his balance {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, say is he was truly sorry, he'd be willing to die for forgiveness {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, tell him you'd make you cut off his hand were you his master {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, tell him to prove Liara Portyr he is not a weakling {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Monk}}, praise him for a good discipline for a guard {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, talk to [[Thunder (Flaming Fist)|Gauntlet Thunder]] about proper punishment for two soldiers who screwed up, and say: | |||
* That you'd do exactly what she is doing {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Advise her to double their shifts and dock their pay {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Arensen|Fist 'Edge' Arensen]] at the gallows, ask him why don't he wait with threats until you commit a crime {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say a big guy like him makes an easy target {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Miller|Fist Miller]] after [[Florrick]] had been executed, say "Good riddance" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say she didn't deserve to die {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say it's a cruel way of talking about her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Thrastle Muria]], ask if everyone in her neighbourhood is as friendly as she is {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say that you are no builder but still are handy with a hammer {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Liara Portyr]] and [[Lora Bergauz]]:'' | |||
* Tell Lora to calm down and let Liara alone, then call Liara a typical Fist who never listens {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell Lora it wasn't very responsible to take a kid to a tavern {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Promise to help Lora find [[Vanra Bergauz|her daughter]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
** OR Propose to help Lora find [[Vanra Bergauz|her daughter]] for a certain price {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If you already know that Vanra died, tell this to Lora, then say you did your best {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say Vanra is dead, no matter Lora believes you or not {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''At [[The Blushing Mermaid]]:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Bosun Gannet]], when he instructs you about the tavern rules, say you'll keep to them {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Ask Gannet what to do if you want to use the latrine {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Ask Gannet about Vanra, and then: | |||
** Say you didn't think a tough guy would be scared of a little knife {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Tell him you'd love to see him try to kick you out {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* After dealing with the hag, if real Captain Grisly died, tell Gannet you are sorry for not saving her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Talking to the [[Auntie Ethel|hag]] masking as [[Quenora Grisly|Captain Grisly]], inquire her about Vanra, and then ask how do you know she's not lying {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}} or a {{Class|Fighter}}, ask whether a little knife caused such trouble {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When looking for a decision, propose to talk to Lora and calm her down {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Suggest to pay Lora off {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you want to get to the bottom to the story of a missing child {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, say Lora acted out of fear and anger {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Oath of Vengeance|Vengeance Paladin}}, say the punishment is in order {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, mention that killing Lora sounds like the best way {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When the hag offers you money for killing Lora, agree to do it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Refuse to do the dirty work for her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(A {{Class|Oath of Devotion|Devotion Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, agree to do it if she doubles the price {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Agree to kill Lora for disguised hag, but then return and say you can't do it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell the hag you've changed your mind and she should surrender Vanra {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* After [[Auntie Ethel]] reveals herself and confesses that she actually ate Vanra, call her a monster, and then: | |||
** Tell her to surrender the child immediately. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you'll leave now {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If you have already killed Lora, tell Ethel to thank you {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
** OR Say you don't like being used {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Ethel offers you to let her go in exchange of being an ally in your crusade, decline her deal, choosing either "Not a chance" or "Time to die" lines {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Warlock}}, tell her to make a better offer or die {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Paladin}}, say you will find glory in spilling the guts of a monster {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(This option is available for {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreakers}}, too)'' | |||
''Speaking to [[Svend]] and [[Siggy]]:'' | |||
* Ask whether Svend is really worried about a ''date'' when the army of the Absolute can attack any moment {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say Siggy clearly loves him and worries about him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Persuade Svend he would leave the city at the first chance {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Halfling}}, tell Svend to skip the date for a free drinks {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, convince Svend to stay, asking what's life without a little danger {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Monk}}, tell him to forego the date {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, PLaying as a {{Class|Bard}}, tell Svend to save the angst for romance novels {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Choose to stay out of their debate and do not meddle in {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Other patrons:'' | |||
* Talking to [[Nesha Leesha]], warn her about the [[Investigate the Murders#Save_the_Victims|serial killer]], then use [[Persuasion]] to insist on it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Say you've probably mistaken her for someone else {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Zena]], tell her that if a child was in this dump, they deserve to be 'nabbed' {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''At [[Crimson Draughts]]:'' | |||
* If you are partnered with Astarion and he is in the party, refuse [[Araj Oblodra|Araj Oblodra's]] invitation to come in, saying you saw how Araj made him feel {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell Astarion that you all can leave if he doesn't want to be around Araj {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
▶''''' Note:''' This option is available and brings approval if you '''did not''' convince the spawn to drink Araj's blood in [[Act Two]] AND if his [[The Pale Elf|personal quest]] is not finished yet. '' | |||
* In the [[Baldur's Mouth]], tell [[Ettvard Needle]] you'll unveil his connection to Gortash if he prints anything bad about you.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * In the [[Baldur's Mouth]], tell [[Ettvard Needle]] you'll unveil his connection to Gortash if he prints anything bad about you.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
*<u>Near the</u> [[Crimson Draughts]], give some gold to [[Sacrum]]. | *<u>Near the</u> [[Crimson Draughts]], give some gold to [[Sacrum]]. | ||
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'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]''' | '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''<br> | ||
* | |||
* | ''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:'' | ||
* Talking to the [[Waking Mind]], succeed the passive [[Insight]] check and choose to consume her mind {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''In the [[Tadpoling Centre]]:'' | |||
* Choose to purge the pods {{Approval|Shadowheart|-5}} | |||
'''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]''' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, talk to [[Alfira]] and decline her proposal to play together a show for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Tell [[Mattis]] that [[Mol]] will already be at Baldur's Gate when they arrive {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | |||
* When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]], mention the cult might need a new leadership afterwards {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** Then tell her you are with her {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(A {{Class|Rogue}} character will have an additional unique line)'' | |||
* OR Declare you will be the saviours of Baldur's Gate, then agree with Minthara that reshaping world would be glorious {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* When Minthara enquires about one more thing to explain and asks why you slayed the tieflings in the [[Emerald Grove]], say you did it to impress her {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
'''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]'''<br> | '''[[Daughter of Darkness|Personal quest]]'''<br> | ||
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'''[[Lower City]]''' | '''[[Lower City]]''' | ||
''At the[[The Blushing Mermaid]]:'' | ''At the [[Basilisk Gate Barracks]]:'' | ||
* | |||
* | * Playing as a {{Class|Fighter}}, talk to [[Thunder (Flaming Fist)|Gauntlet Thunder]] about proper punishment for two soldiers who screwed up, and tell her to let it slide, just for once {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* Talking to [[Arensen|Fist 'Edge' Arensen]] at the gallows, tell him you'll stay out of trouble {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Miller|Fist Miller]] after [[Florrick]] had been executed, say "Good riddance" {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Liara Portyr]] and [[Lora Bergauz]]:'' | |||
* Tell Lora to calm down and let Liara alone {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''At [[The Blushing Mermaid]]:'' | |||
* After [[Auntie Ethel]] reveals herself and confesses that she actually ate Vanra, call her a monster, and then say "That’s so evil, even I’m impressed." {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* When Ethel offers you to let her go in exchange of being an ally in your crusade, agree to have a deal {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(An {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreaker Paladin}} character will have a unique line here)'' | |||
* At [[Sorcerous Sundries]], betray [[Dame Aylin]] and hand her over to [[Lorroakan]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * At [[Sorcerous Sundries]], betray [[Dame Aylin]] and hand her over to [[Lorroakan]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], let Astarion complete the Rite of Profane Ascension {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * In [[Cazador's Dungeon]], let Astarion complete the Rite of Profane Ascension {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} |
Latest revision as of 21:53, 9 December 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.
Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.
Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- "What do you want?"
- "What?"
- "What is it?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Something the matter?"
Medium and up - Sharran (20+ approval):
- "May the darkness protect you."
- "Shar's blessing upon you."
- "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"
Medium and up - Selunite (20+):
- "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
- "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
- "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I don't answer to you - move along."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting (20+ approval):
- "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
- "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
- "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
- "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"
Flirting - Low approval:
- "Hmm. You wanted something?"
- "In need of attention, I take it?"
- "Oh, you're back."
- "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"
Partnered (40+ approval):
- "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
- "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
- "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
- "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"
Partnered - Low approval:
- "I hope this is important."
- "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
- "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
- "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
- "Yes?"
Broken Up (40+ approval):
- "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
- "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
- "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
- "What can I do for you?"
Broken Up - Low approval:
- "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
- "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
- "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
- "Spit it out then."
- "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."
Approval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
In the House of Grief:
- Let her participate in the Mapping of the Heart. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Tell the cloister how Shar has blessed her. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Give her a chance to sway more of Viconia's followers. +1
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.