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'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | '''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | ||
''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | * Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | ||
'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his sisters to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | * OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
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* By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | |||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''<br> | |||
''Witnessing [[Ketheric|Ketheric's]] trial (at the very first visit to Moonrise):'' | |||
* If [[Minthara]] is judged: | |||
** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, after Ketheric declares the sentence, intervene and say you can make Minthara's passing ''much'' more creative {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* When [[Z'rell]] orders you to decide the goblins' fate, kill them through illithid powers {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' A {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character will have several options, all gaining points'' | |||
''Talking to [[Z'rell|Disciple Z'rell]] after the trial:'' | |||
* If you killed the goblins: | |||
** Distract [[Z'rell|Disciple Z'rell]] with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for the proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you're romancing the spawn'' | |||
:* Then ask her to show something real of the power that Absolute gifted her with {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If you have helped [[Balthazar]] to retrieve [[Nightsong]]: | |||
** Agree to kidnap Isobel on Z'rell's order {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** If you have already kidnapped Isobel, too, tell Z'rell you have an eye on her position {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''At the [[Moonrise Towers Prison]]:'' | |||
* When approaching [[Minthara]] being tortured and erased by [[Jasin]] and [[Sumera]]: | |||
** Say you expected to see her dismembered {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Succeed the {{Ability check|Wisdom|18}} to reach out to Minthara's mind, tell her to play along, and then convince the questioners that you have broken her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Say that the only thing you're going to break is them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts a fight with the questioners, with Minthara taking your side)'' | |||
* After the fight, escort Minthara out of Moonrise Towers and tell where to find your camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to the [[Warden]] for the first time, tell her that her face is bland, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** Then try to bribe her, and when she takes the money and does nothing, say that you should have see it coming {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Rogue}}, say it was so well-played that you are not even mad {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Refuse to bribe her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Lia]], promise to help the tieflings escape {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Lakrissa]], when she accuses you of serving the cult, succeed a [[Persuasion]] or an [[Intimidation]] roll, then promise to help the tieflings {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Wulbren]], say that [[Barcus Wroot]] sent you, OR use any of check-based options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** If the party found themselves in a cell, accept Wulbren's offer to break out together {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* Provide [[Wulbren]] with any tool capable of destroying a wall {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* When [[Wulbren]], once freed, takes the boat and sails off without the party, let him go {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Paladin}} or a Good {{Class|Cleric}}, say that their chasers won't get past you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
** OR Outrage on Wulbren's betrayal, using basic line or class-based/race-based lines for Evil {{Class|Cleric}}, {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Race|Drow}}, {{Race|Githyanki}} or {{Race|Deep Gnome}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in Moonrise Towers:'' | |||
* Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion is his own person {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion is his own person {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** Then | ** Then back Astarion in his decision on biting Araj, telling her "He said no, what's to discuss". {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when | ** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when Araj asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* | * At the Moonrise Towers docks, use illithid {{Ability check|Wisdom}} on [[Marls|Acolyte Marls]], and then tell him to wash the worms off. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Final fight at the Moonrise:'' | |||
* If you haven't come to [[Last Light Inn]] at all, before final fight for [[Moonrise Towers]] tell [[Jaheira]] you are a foe. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop|rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires first {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}}, and any of subsequent DC 30 checks, OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | |||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} and any of subsequent DC 30 checks | * When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing Ketheric Thorm: | ||
* When talking to [[Minthara]] after killing | |||
** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her that together you make a good team. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her you can hardly wait to reshape the world {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** <u>Tell</u> her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ** <u>Tell</u> her "I'm with you" when she proposes claiming the Netherstones. | ||
** <u>Tell</u> her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ** <u>Tell</u> her you wanted to learn more about the tadpole when she asks "one more thing" | ||
* When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing | * When talking to [[Jaheira]] after killing Ketheric Thorm, say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After defeating Ketheric down at the [[Mind Flayer Colony|colony]], speak to [[Art Cullagh]] and ask whether the [[Shadow Curse|curse]] is everything he bothers about. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | |||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | ||
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* Agree to give up all your gold to [[Gerringothe Thorm]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | * Agree to give up all your gold to [[Gerringothe Thorm]]. {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]''' | '''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''<br> | ||
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* | ''Witnessing [[Ketheric|Ketheric's]] trial (at the very first visit to Moonrise):'' | ||
* | * When Z'rell orders you to decide the goblins' fate: | ||
** Offer them a fair fight to death, using basic or unique {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Berserker}}, {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Oathbreaker}} options {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option will not bring any points for {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character'' | |||
:* OR Set them free (basic or {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} option) {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
''At the [[Moonrise Towers Prison]]:'' | |||
* When approaching [[Minthara]] being tortured and erased by [[Jasin]] and [[Sumera]]: | |||
* Defeat the questioners, escort Minthara out of Moonrise Towers, and then tell her you have saved her only for the pleasure of killing her yourself {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Speaking to the [[Warden]] for the first time, use [[Deception]] to convince her that you are [[Balthazar|Balthazar's]] closest confidante {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Speaking to [[Wulbren]], say they can die in prison for all you care {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Refuse to find tools for Wulbren {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in Moonrise Towers:'' | |||
** Reinforce the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|-1}} | |||
* Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion does what you tell him to do {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} | * Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion does what you tell him to do {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} | ||
* Convince Astarion to bite | * Convince Astarion to bite Araj by any means OR order him directly to do it. {{Approval|Astarion|-3}} ''(either option)'' | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' |
Latest revision as of 12:26, 1 December 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf[edit | edit source]
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive[edit | edit source]
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage)
- "The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)
Approval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.