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* Convince [[Kar'niss]] the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him, using [[Deception]] OR [[Intimidation]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | * Convince [[Kar'niss]] the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him, using [[Deception]] OR [[Intimidation]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* If ambushing the convoy '''with''' the Harpers, start the dialogue with the drider and [[Deception|deceive]] it into giving you the lantern {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * If ambushing the convoy '''with''' the Harpers, start the dialogue with the drider and [[Deception|deceive]] it into giving you the lantern {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | |||
* Speaking to [[He Who Was]], say you doubt that he is here for the goodness of his heart {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Then agree to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] for him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Order [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(Evil {{Class|Cleric}} will have a unique line)'' | |||
** Then tell her to stab herself and don't stop OR to prove she is sorry {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** Finally succeed a [[Persuasion]] roll to keep her going {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Fighter}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Fighter}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
** OR Ask him not to be hard on himself for trying to save his family {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ** OR Ask him not to be hard on himself for trying to save his family {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | ||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | |||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]], promise to keep its secret {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | ||
* When she mocks [[Shadowheart]] about [[Shar]] not protecting her, answer that the Dark Lady's works aren't for you to question {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Playing as an Evil {{Class|Cleric}}, after Isobel casts protecting spell on the party, say that you hope it is worth its ''sickly'' radiance {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | |||
** Agree to help him kidnap Isobel OR say that you are going to take the cleric yourself {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
** OR Speak to Isobel and warn her, revealing Marcus as a True Soul {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | |||
** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, explain to Isobel that he is going to kidnap her {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | |||
** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(available after the kidnap attempt AND if you haven't threatened her)'' | |||
''Talking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | |||
* Ask whether the Flaming Fist are just going to stay around {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** If [[Wyll]] is in the party, tell Florrick it's your business what had happened to him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as [[Wyll]], say it was a devil deal that has gone terribly wrong {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Say you only wanted to admire him close {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}}, and then indeed choose to quietly admire him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Ranger}}, say you do not seek his territory {{Approval|Shadowheart|+2}} | |||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | |||
* When she tell you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, say: | |||
** That she abandoned others {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Class|Monk}} or {{Class|Paladin}} (except [[Oathbreaker]]))'' | |||
** OR That she did the right thing {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(use basic line or unique for {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Oathbreaker|Oathbreaker Paladin}})'' | |||
* Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | |||
** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | |||
** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* After Marcus's assault, when she asks whether they cannot trust anyone: | |||
** Tell her to stop whining {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Half-Orc}}, tell her to use her anger.{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* Ask her about others, and then say that running was right call {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Alfira asks you how do you keep going, answer: | |||
** That you take one step at a time {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR That danger is your life {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR That you don't complain constantly {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Fighter}}, a {{Class|Druid}}, a {{Class|Ranger}}, or a {{Class|Rogue}}, use a class-based line {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, a {{Race|Deep Gnome}} or a {{Race|Duergar}}, say that only the strong survive {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Alfira supposes that surviving tieflings were taken to the [[Moonrise Towers]], promise you will find them {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | |||
* If you successfully [[Rescue the Tieflings]], speak to Alfira again. When she asks how did you do it, answer that you were being a hero {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Talk to [[Alfira]] after [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescuing the tieflings]] from [[Moonrise Towers]] and take the reward {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(If [[Lakrissa]] survived, talking to her starts the same cutscene)'' | |||
''Speaking with [[Bex]] and [[Danis]]:'' | |||
* Before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | |||
** Promise Bex to find Danis, using any of two basic options or {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Cleric}} lines {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
** OR Tell her that Danis is now goblin chow toy OR that they've probably killed and eaten him {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option)'' | |||
* If Danis '''died''' while saving attempt, tell Bex that he is better off dead than abandoned in Moonrise {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If Danis '''survived''' and reunited with Bex: | |||
** Smile and then say it's wonderful to see them together OR mention that it is all thanks to you {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** When Bex asks why you helped, answer that you did it because they were in trouble {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | |||
''Dealing with [[Rolan]], [[Cal]] and [[Lia]]:'' | |||
* Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | |||
** Promise to rescue them if they are alive OR say that it is your responsibility to bring them back {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | |||
** OR Tell him that his siblings are better off dead than in cult's hands {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Tell him to stop whining and do something about it {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, tell him he won't be able to read his spellbook if he keeps drinking {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If you have already saved him from the [[Shadow]]s, say you're absolutely going to gloat {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If either Cal or Lia (or both) '''died''' while rescue attempt: | |||
** Tell Rolan that you wanted to save everyone, but couldn't {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If both siblings '''survived''': | |||
** After they thank you, ask Rolan whether he has something to add {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** OR Ask who is going to pay you {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* If Rolan died in battle with Shadows, tell either Cal or Lia that he died as he lived - stupidly {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken [[Rolan]] has snapped on her:'' | |||
* Say you're sorry, and then add that he is more immature than she is {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* OR Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil", tell her next time call him one back {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When Ide shows you the [[The Way of the Wanderer|book]] she means to keep for Rolan, convince her to give it to you, using [[Deception]], [[Intimidation]] or [[Persuasion]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(either option, requiring a DC 14 roll)'' | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | |||
* Talking to the [[Strange Ox]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, promise to keep its secret. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* When [[Vidor|Manip Vidor]] says you are meant to be heading towards Moonrise, answer "doing your job, you mean" {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | |||
''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | |||
* Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | |||
''In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | |||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other..{{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | |||
* OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | |||
'' | ''At the cemetery:'' | ||
* Agree to help [[Arabella]] find her parents. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | * Agree to help [[Arabella]] find her parents. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
* | ** Then offer Arabella shelter at your camp. {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
' | * OR, If you've already found [[Locke]] and [[Komira]]'s bodies, tell Arabella they are dead and succeed [[Persuasion]] or [[Intimidation]] roll to take her to your camp {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''({{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character will have a unique lines and only Persuasion option)'' | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[ | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Constitution]], either general or class-based lines) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}}''(gains approval after first and second rounds)'' | ||
** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' | ** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling [[Sleight of Hand]]) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(gains approval only in the first round)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) | * Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through [[Performance]] roll) {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} ''(gains approval each time)''. | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent [[Deception]] roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | ||
* By any means make | * By any means make Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
''In [[Sharran Sanctuary]] under the town square:'' | ''In [[Sharran Sanctuary]] under the town square:'' | ||
* | * Offer blood from your arm as a sacrifice at the secret altar to Shar {{Approval|Shadowheart|+1}} | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | ||
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** OR Tell it to obey the goblins and stay {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ** OR Tell it to obey the goblins and stay {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
* When [[Kar'niss]] the drider comes to take the convoy to [[Moonrise Towers]], choose to attack it (straightaway or after speaking with it) {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | * When [[Kar'niss]] the drider comes to take the convoy to [[Moonrise Towers]], choose to attack it (straightaway or after speaking with it) {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | |||
* After ordering [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did, stop her, saying she had done enough {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Say her willing to hurt herself was enough {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Accuse her of cowardice, using basic or unique {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}} lines {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** OR Say that it wasn't her fault, using basic or unique {{Class|Bard}}, Good {{Class|Cleric}} or {{Class|Monk}} lines {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Elsewhere:'' | ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* At the [[House in Deep Shadows]], ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, then about his parents' names, and agree to play with him. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(Following this course immediately starts the fight with Oliver's "family")'' | * At the [[House in Deep Shadows]], ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, then about his parents' names, and agree to play with him. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''(Following this course immediately starts the fight with Oliver's "family")'' | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' | ||
* | ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, drink the spiked wine {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* If you have talked to [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]] already and know his mission, try to convince Jaheira that he is a spy {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | |||
* Hiss back at him, say that he is in your territory, and order to get out {{Approval|Shadowheart|-2}} | |||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Shadowheart|-2}} | |||
''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | |||
* Ask her about others, and then say that it was a cowardly move {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* When Alfira supposes that surviving tieflings were taken to the [[Moonrise Towers]], say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken [[Rolan]] has snapped on her:'' | |||
* Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil", say that he was observant for it's what she really is. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | |||
* If you looted [[Yonas|Yonas's]] body, ask [[Meygan|Harper Meygan]] whether she would like to take his sword, then say you were kidding and keep it {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* Talking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]], tell her you have no intentions to go to [[Moonrise Towers]] {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** Let [[Mol]] lose the game of lanceboard against [[Raphael]] by giving the wrong advice, failing the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}} roll or not helping her at all {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* If either [[Cal]] or [[Lia]] (or both) '''died''' while [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescue]] attempt, speak to [[Rolan]], garble their names and say you don't know them {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | |||
'''At the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]''' | |||
* Agree to give up all your gold to [[Gerringothe Thorm]]. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
''At the cemetery:'' | |||
* Refuse to help [[Arabella]] find her parents. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
** If you agreed, refuse to take Arabella in at your camp. {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | |||
* OR, If you've already found [[Locke]] and [[Komira]]'s bodies, tell Arabella they are dead and fail [[Persuasion]] or [[Intimidation]] roll to take her to your camp {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} ''({{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character will have unique lines and Persuasion option only)'' | |||
'' In the [[Sharran Sanctuary]]:'' | '' In the [[Sharran Sanctuary]]:'' | ||
* | * Steal the [[Ritual Dagger of Shar]] from the hidden altar {{Approval|Shadowheart|-1}} | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' | '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]''' |
Latest revision as of 08:50, 29 November 2024
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Shadowheart likes finding pragmatic and efficient solutions to problems. She appreciates discretion, privacy, and open-mindedness. Shadowheart may respond well to acts of heroism, though she also has occasional cruel tendencies and may look favourably on torture and manipulation.
Shadowheart dislikes those that disapprove of her worship or people pressing her for answers or details. She does not like needless cruelty or violence and can respond unfavorably to being too open with untrustworthy or unknown individuals.
Unlike other Companions, Shadowheart has a secondary approval system, influencing the choices in Find the Nightsong and Find Ketheric Thorm's Relic. For more information, see Nightsong Points.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Shadowheart's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings[edit | edit source]
Depending on their approval rating, Shadowheart may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- "What do you want?"
- "What?"
- "What is it?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Something the matter?"
Medium and up - Sharran (20+ approval):
- "May the darkness protect you."
- "Shar's blessing upon you."
- "Lady of Sorrows guide us. Did you want something?"
Medium and up - Selunite (20+):
- "All's well I hope? Aside from the obvious?"
- "Almost pleasant, travelling with company. If you ignore all the... less pleasant aspects."
- "I wasn't expecting it, but I'm glad to have some company on this journey."
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "I don't answer to you - move along."
Romance[edit | edit source]
Flirting (20+ approval):
- "Well, my day just improved. Did you want something?"
- "You know, I've been catching myself smiling more lately. I think that's your fault."
- "I was hoping you'd come to chat. What do you need?"
- "Ah- so that's what people mean when they talk about butterflies in their stomach. Did you want something?"
Flirting - Low approval:
- "Hmm. You wanted something?"
- "In need of attention, I take it?"
- "Oh, you're back."
- "Sometimes I wonder if I should just let the tadpole dictate my love life. Did you want something?"
Partnered (40+ approval):
- "Aren't you a sight for sore eyes."
- "Good. I was just starting to miss the sound of your voice."
- "Did you want something? If not, I'm perfectly happy to just gaze upon you a while."
- "Why hello, lover... that sounded more debonaire in my head, I'll admit. Do you need something?"
Partnered - Low approval:
- "I hope this is important."
- "You know what I really love about you? When you play the strong, silent type. Let's keep this short, shall we?"
- "You know, just because I join you at your bedroll from time to time doesn't mean you need to talk to me quite so much. Is this urgent?"
- "Personality isn't everything, I suppose. Plenty of relationships can limp along on physical attraction alone. What do you want?"
- "Yes?"
Broken Up (40+ approval):
- "You know, I didn't realise it was possible to be so cordial with a former flame. I suppose I'm lucky. Did you want something?"
- "You're a sight for sore eyes, even now. Did you want something?"
- "Careful - keep seeking me out like this and people may think we're rekindling things. Did you want something?"
- "What can I do for you?"
Broken Up - Low approval:
- "You know, I truly do marvel sometimes that I ever had feelings for you. What do you want?"
- "Mmm-hmm? This had better be important."
- "Honestly, I should be grateful that you ended things between us - I dodged a poison tipped arrow there. What do you want?"
- "Spit it out then."
- "I'm listening - though don't ask me why."
Approval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to gain approval.
Act One[edit | edit source]
Act Two[edit | edit source]
Act Three[edit | edit source]
In the House of Grief:
- Let her participate in the Mapping of the Heart. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Tell the cloister how Shar has blessed her. +5
- (If Shadowheart remained a Sharran) Give her a chance to sway more of Viconia's followers. +1
Disapproval[edit | edit source]
As a Companion character, the interactions listed below will cause Shadowheart to lose approval. This list is most likely incomplete.