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== Shove | == Overview == | ||
Shove is a basic, common action available to almost every humanoid. Because of [[falling damage]] and chasms, shoving can be an extremely potent action both when used by the party or against it. Shove has a dedicated keybind (V) with the keyboard and mouse interface, or it can be used from the ability bar like any other ability. | |||
Using Shove will show a percentage chance preview and the trajectory and landing position of the object or character if the push were successful. Whether or not the shove is successful and the distance of the shove depend on a number of factors described below. | |||
[[File:Shove_Valid.png|thumb|right| | |||
A valid shove. The goblin will be pushed into the pit and land in a valid location, taking significant fall damage. | |||
]] | |||
For a shove to be valid, the target creature must land in a position where it could normally stand, or in a dedicated chasm. Chasms can be identified by the "Chasm" tooltip that appears when hovering your cursor over them. Pushing a creature into a chasm will instantly kill it, but the body and any loot it carries will (usually) be lost forever. | |||
[[File:Shove_Invalid.png|thumb|right| | |||
An invalid shove. The goblin would be shoved into the wall which is not a valid location. Rather than hitting the wall and then falling into the pit, the goblin will not move at all if shoved. | |||
]] | |||
Attempting to push a creature into an invalid location (for example, into a wall) will show a red shove preview. While the game does not prevent you from making an invalid shove, doing so will not move the target even if the roll is successful. | |||
== Roll == | |||
When attempting to shove a non-allied creature, both the target and the shover make skill checks in a ''contested'' roll. | When attempting to shove a non-allied creature, both the target and the shover make skill checks in a ''contested'' roll. | ||
The shover makes a normal [[Athletics]] check against a DC determined by the target's passive skill using either Athletics {{em|or}} [[Acrobatics]], whichever is higher. | The shover makes a normal [[Athletics]] check against a DC determined by the target's passive skill using either Athletics {{em|or}} [[Acrobatics]], whichever is higher.{{ref|From the definition of {{c|ShoveCheck()}} in {{c|Scripts/thoth/helpers/CommonConditions.khn}}.}} | ||
This passive skill is equal to {{InfoBlob|10 + skill bonus}} with {{Advantage}} adding 5 and {{Disadvantage}} subtracting 5. | This passive skill is equal to {{InfoBlob|10 + skill bonus}} with {{Advantage}} on the relevant skill checks adding 5 and {{Disadvantage}} subtracting 5. | ||
For example, a barbarian at level 1, with 17 Strength, proficiency in Athletics, and currently {{Cond|Rage|Raging}} will have a passive Athletics skill of: | For example, a barbarian at level 1, with 17 Strength, proficiency in Athletics, and currently {{Cond|Rage|Raging}} will have a passive Athletics skill of: | ||
<div class="center"> | <div class="center"> | ||
{{InfoBlob|1=10 + 3 ( | {{InfoBlob|1=10 + 3 (STR modifier) + 2 (Proficiency) + 5 (Advantage on STR checks) = 20}} | ||
</div> | </div> | ||
If the shover's roll meets or exceeds the target's passive skill, the shove will be successful. Shove attempts cannot critically fail, provided rolling a natural 1 would still beat the target's passive Acrobatics or Athletics skill. | If the shover's roll meets or exceeds the target's passive skill, the shove will be successful. Shove attempts cannot critically fail, provided rolling a natural 1 would still beat the target's passive Acrobatics or Athletics skill. Both {{Cond|Hiding}} and {{Cond|Invisible|Invisibility}} grant {{Advantage}} on shove's Athletics skill check. | ||
[[File:Shove_DC.png|thumb|right| | |||
An example of the erroneous shove DC shown in the combat log. | |||
]] | |||
Information on the contested skill check is not readily visible in-game since, in the combat log, the DC of a shove skill check is always erroneously shown as 0. The percentage chance preview before making a shove is accurate, however. | |||
Shoving is one of the few cases where skill checks are made in combat. As a result, this is one of the few uses for the component of {{SAI|Hex}} that imposes {{Disadvantage}} on skill checks of a specified ability. Hexing Strength will greatly reduce the chance of an enemy successfully shoving you and make it easier to shove high Strength enemies. Hexing Dexterity will make it significantly easier to shove high Dexterity enemies. Note that it is not possible to see an enemy's skill bonuses in the inspect window, so it is not always easy to determine whether hexing Strength or Dexterity would be more impactful. | |||
When targeting an ally, Shove does not require a skill check and will always succeed, provided all other prerequisites for a successful shove are met. This behaviour was added in Patch 6 and prior to that, shoving allies required passing a skill check. | When targeting an ally, Shove does not require a skill check and will always succeed, provided all other prerequisites for a successful shove are met. This behaviour was added in Patch 6 and prior to that, shoving allies required passing a skill check. | ||
== Max weight == | |||
The weight of a target object and a creature's Strength score determine whether a shove attempt can be made in the first place. The requirement is: | |||
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{{math|\text{Strength score} \times \text{Multiplier} \ge \text{Target object weight} }}. | |||
</div> | |||
Note that this is the full Strength score, {{em|not}} the Strength ability modifier that is usually used. The multiplier is 12 unmodified, but is increased to 28.2 for {{Cond|Enlarged}} creatures, and decreased to 5.1 for {{Cond|Reduced}} creatures.{{ref|From the definition of {{c|CanShoveWeight()}} in {{c|Scripts/thoth/helpers/CommonConditions.khn}}.}} | |||
Smaller characters like [[gnome]]s {{em|do not}} receive penalties to max shove weights. The multiplier is adjusted specifically by the Enlarge/Reduce conditions and has nothing to do with [[creature size]]. Even functionally identical effects like {{Cond|Elixir of the Colossus}} or {{Cond|Giant Form}} do not affect the maximum shove weight. | |||
If the weight condition is not met, attempting to shove an object or creature will display a message "Too heavy to Shove." | |||
== Distance == | |||
The distance an object or creature is shoved depends on the Strength of the shover and weight of the shoved object. | |||
<!--TODO: Figure out what exactly this formula is. It is referenced as ShoveDistance in the game files, but the actual calculation is readily visible like with CanShoveWeight(). This may require manual experimentation. --> | |||
This distance is restricted to a minimum of {{dist|m=1}} and a maximum of {{dist|m=6}}.{{ref|From the definitions of {{c|ShoveDistanceMin}} and {{c|ShoveDistanceMax}} in {{c|Public/Shared/Stats/Generated/Data/Data.txt}}.}} | |||
Note, however, that the maximum shove distance assumes level terrain. When shoving an object off a ledge, it can go further than {{dist|m=6}} since it will continue its parabolic trajectory as it falls. | |||
== Tactics == | |||
Shove is an excellent tool to exploit terrain and environmental hazards. When pushing enemies off ledges, they will take damage according to the [[falling damage]] rules if they fall at least {{dist|m=4}}. Additionally, if they fall at least {{dist|m=8}}, they will get knocked {{Cond|Prone}} with no [[saving throw]]. Pushing enemies into chasms is even more potent, but you lose out on any loot they carry. | |||
Aside from the obvious use of pushing enemies to their deaths, Shove has a wide range of creative uses. | |||
* Shoving can be used to avoid {{SAI|Opportunity Attack|Opportunity Attacks}} by pushing a threatening enemy out of range before retreating. | |||
* It can be used to rouse a creature from {{Cond|Sleeping}} or help them shake off the effects of certain spells like {{SAI|Hypnotic Pattern}}. | |||
* Shoving (or even just attempting a shove) counts as an attack for the purposes of maintaining {{Cond|Rage}}. | |||
* Allies can be shoved out of range of dangerous effects. For example, you can shove an ally that is {{Cond|Garrotted}} by a [[Meazel]] to break the effect. | |||
== Related features == | |||
* {{SAI|Charger|w=30}} - Grants a special shove ability, {{SAI|Charger: Shove}}. Note that while this ability costs a full {{r|action}} {{em|and}} a {{r|bonus}}, it is not actually any stronger or more effective at shoving than the basic shove. | |||
* {{SAI|Displace|w=30}} - When inflicting [[falling damage]] through a shove, this feature will add bonus {{DamageType|Psychic}} damage. | |||
== Related items == | |||
* {{MdRarityItem|Bracing Band}} - Gain +1 AC for a turn after shoving an enemy. Also works when pushing an enemy any other way. | |||
* {{MdRarityItem|Corpsegrinder}} - The special weapon action uses your normal shove distance to determine the pushback. | |||
* {{MdRarityItem|Reaper's Embrace}}, {{MdRarityItem|The Mighty Cloth}}, {{MdRarityItem|Boots of Striding}}, and {{MdRarityItem|Helldusk Boots}} can prevent you from being forcibly moved by Shove. | |||
== References == | == References == | ||
{{reflist}} | {{reflist}} | ||
Latest revision as of 20:05, 11 October 2024
Shove is a common bonus action that allows the user to shove an creature or object, pushing it away (and possibly off ledges or into harmful effects).
Description
Try to push your target away.
Your success depends on your Athletics, and the target's Athletics or Acrobatics. You have 
Advantage if you're 
or 
.
The shove distance depends on your Strength and the target's weight.
Properties
- Cost:
-
Bonus action - Details:
-
Range: 1.5 m / 5 ft
Overview[edit | edit source]
Shove is a basic, common action available to almost every humanoid. Because of falling damage and chasms, shoving can be an extremely potent action both when used by the party or against it. Shove has a dedicated keybind (V) with the keyboard and mouse interface, or it can be used from the ability bar like any other ability.
Using Shove will show a percentage chance preview and the trajectory and landing position of the object or character if the push were successful. Whether or not the shove is successful and the distance of the shove depend on a number of factors described below.
For a shove to be valid, the target creature must land in a position where it could normally stand, or in a dedicated chasm. Chasms can be identified by the "Chasm" tooltip that appears when hovering your cursor over them. Pushing a creature into a chasm will instantly kill it, but the body and any loot it carries will (usually) be lost forever.
Attempting to push a creature into an invalid location (for example, into a wall) will show a red shove preview. While the game does not prevent you from making an invalid shove, doing so will not move the target even if the roll is successful.
Roll[edit | edit source]
When attempting to shove a non-allied creature, both the target and the shover make skill checks in a contested roll.
The shover makes a normal Athletics check against a DC determined by the target's passive skill using either Athletics or Acrobatics, whichever is higher.[1]
This passive skill is equal to 10 + skill bonus with Advantage on the relevant skill checks adding 5 and 
Disadvantage subtracting 5.
For example, a barbarian at level 1, with 17 Strength, proficiency in Athletics, and currently 
will have a passive Athletics skill of:
10 + 3 (STR modifier) + 2 (Proficiency) + 5 (Advantage on STR checks) = 20
If the shover's roll meets or exceeds the target's passive skill, the shove will be successful. Shove attempts cannot critically fail, provided rolling a natural 1 would still beat the target's passive Acrobatics or Athletics skill. Both 
and grant Advantage on shove's Athletics skill check.
Information on the contested skill check is not readily visible in-game since, in the combat log, the DC of a shove skill check is always erroneously shown as 0. The percentage chance preview before making a shove is accurate, however.
Shoving is one of the few cases where skill checks are made in combat. As a result, this is one of the few uses for the component of 
that imposes Disadvantage on skill checks of a specified ability. Hexing Strength will greatly reduce the chance of an enemy successfully shoving you and make it easier to shove high Strength enemies. Hexing Dexterity will make it significantly easier to shove high Dexterity enemies. Note that it is not possible to see an enemy's skill bonuses in the inspect window, so it is not always easy to determine whether hexing Strength or Dexterity would be more impactful.
When targeting an ally, Shove does not require a skill check and will always succeed, provided all other prerequisites for a successful shove are met. This behaviour was added in Patch 6 and prior to that, shoving allies required passing a skill check.
Max weight[edit | edit source]
The weight of a target object and a creature's Strength score determine whether a shove attempt can be made in the first place. The requirement is:
.
Note that this is the full Strength score, not the Strength ability modifier that is usually used. The multiplier is 12 unmodified, but is increased to 28.2 for 
creatures, and decreased to 5.1 for 
creatures.[2]
Smaller characters like gnomes do not receive penalties to max shove weights. The multiplier is adjusted specifically by the Enlarge/Reduce conditions and has nothing to do with creature size. Even functionally identical effects like or 
do not affect the maximum shove weight.
If the weight condition is not met, attempting to shove an object or creature will display a message "Too heavy to Shove."
Distance[edit | edit source]
The distance an object or creature is shoved depends on the Strength of the shover and weight of the shoved object. This distance is restricted to a minimum of 1 m / 3 ft and a maximum of 6 m / 20 ft.[3] Note, however, that the maximum shove distance assumes level terrain. When shoving an object off a ledge, it can go further than 6 m / 20 ft since it will continue its parabolic trajectory as it falls.
Tactics[edit | edit source]
Shove is an excellent tool to exploit terrain and environmental hazards. When pushing enemies off ledges, they will take damage according to the falling damage rules if they fall at least 4 m / 13 ft. Additionally, if they fall at least 8 m / 27 ft, they will get knocked 
with no saving throw. Pushing enemies into chasms is even more potent, but you lose out on any loot they carry.
Aside from the obvious use of pushing enemies to their deaths, Shove has a wide range of creative uses.
- Shoving can be used to avoid
by pushing a threatening enemy out of range before retreating. - It can be used to rouse a creature from
or help them shake off the effects of certain spells like 
. - Shoving (or even just attempting a shove) counts as an attack for the purposes of maintaining .
- Allies can be shoved out of range of dangerous effects. For example, you can shove an ally that is
by a Meazel to break the effect.
Related features[edit | edit source]
- Grants a special shove ability, 
. Note that while this ability costs a full 
Action and a Bonus action, it is not actually any stronger or more effective at shoving than the basic shove.
- When inflicting falling damage through a shove, this feature will add bonus 
Psychic damage.
Related items[edit | edit source]
Bracing Band - Gain +1 AC for a turn after shoving an enemy. Also works when pushing an enemy any other way.
Corpsegrinder - The special weapon action uses your normal shove distance to determine the pushback.
Reaper's Embrace, 
The Mighty Cloth, 
Boots of Striding, and 
Helldusk Boots can prevent you from being forcibly moved by Shove.