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{{Passive feature page | |||
| summary = '''Great Weapon Fighting''' is a [[Fighting Style]] passive feature. | | summary = '''Great Weapon Fighting''' is a [[Fighting Style]] passive feature. | ||
| description = When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack with a [[Two-Handed]] melee weapon, that die is rerolled once. | | description = When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack with a [[Two-Handed]] melee weapon, that die is rerolled once. | ||
| image = Great Weapon Fighting.webp | | image = Great Weapon Fighting.webp | ||
| icon = Great Weapon Fighting Icon.webp | |||
| additional = | | additional = | ||
| condition = | | condition = | ||
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| class learns at level 1 = Fighter | | class learns at level 1 = Fighter | ||
| class learns at level 2 = Paladin | | class learns at level 2 = Paladin | ||
| used by creatures = Flaming Fist Guisarmier, Oathbreaker Knight, Ulder Ravengard, Watchman, Zealot of the Absolute | |||
| notes = | | notes = | ||
* This also applies to [[Versatile]] weapons when off-hand is empty. | * This also applies to [[Versatile]] weapons when off-hand is empty. | ||
* Unlike in 5th Edition rules, added damage dice from sources like [[Battle Master|Superiority Dice]], {{SAI|Divine Smite}}, and a | * Unlike in 5th Edition rules, added damage dice from sources like [[Battle Master|Superiority Dice]], {{SAI|Divine Smite}}, and a {{Area|Fire}} or {{Area|Simple Toxin}}-dipped weapon may also be rerolled. | ||
* This feature increases the average of a "Dx" (a dice with x sides) by 1 - 2/x, e.g. by 0.5 for a D4, by 0.833... for a D12, and so on. | * This feature increases the average of a "Dx" (a dice with x sides) by 1 - 2/x, e.g. by 0.5 for a D4, by 0.833... for a D12, and so on. | ||
* When used in combination with [[Savage Attacker]], Great Weapon Fighting is applied before selecting the highest damage roll. | * When used in combination with [[Savage Attacker]], Great Weapon Fighting is applied before selecting the highest damage roll. It will do a first roll and reroll if it's a 1 or 2, and then roll one more time and use the highest result. | ||
** The tooltip is showing 3-4 rolls but it appears to be a bug as of patch 6. | |||
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==Math== | ==Math== | ||
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|+Average bonus damage per dice rolled | |+Average bonus damage per dice rolled | ||
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! Damage dice !! Average bonus damage !! Average damage roll !! | ! Damage dice !! Average bonus damage !! Average damage roll !! Average bonus damage added by Great Weapon Fighting !! Average bonus damage added by Savage Attacker | ||
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|1d4||0.88||3.38||0.25||0.38 | |1d4||0.88||3.38||0.25||0.38 | ||
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Comparing with the 2 bonus damage of [[Duelling]] fighting style, at least 6 damage dice need to be rolled to be equivalent or better. | Comparing with the 2 bonus damage of [[Duelling]] fighting style, at least 6 damage dice need to be rolled to be equivalent or better. | ||
This | This fighting style is less efficient when used in combination with [[Savage Attacker]] but it can still be worth taking if : | ||
* Many damage dice are rolled, which can be achieved with e.g [[Divine Strike]] and/or when building characters based on [[Critical_hit|Critical Strikes]]. | * Many damage dice are rolled, which can be achieved with e.g [[Divine Strike]] and/or when building characters based on [[Critical_hit|Critical Strikes]]. | ||
* Someone wants to take another feat than Savage Attacker whose efficiency is slightly reduced by using Great Weapon Fighting instead (0.25 to 0.5 less bonus average damage, or 50% to 25% less bonus average damage for a d4 to d12 die) | * Someone wants to take another feat than Savage Attacker whose efficiency is slightly reduced by using Great Weapon Fighting instead (0.25 to 0.5 less bonus average damage, or 50% to 25% less bonus average damage for a d4 to d12 die) | ||
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=== Average bonus damage of Great Weapon Fighting with [[Savage Attacker]] and [[Brace_(Melee)|Brace]] === | === Average bonus damage of Great Weapon Fighting with [[Savage Attacker]] and [[Brace_(Melee)|Brace]] === | ||
This feat average bonus damage is even lower when used with Brace and Savage Attacker : ~0.16 damage / die. However Brace can only be used once per short rest so it could still be worth taking. | |||
This feat average bonus damage | |||
==External Links== | ==External Links== | ||
Latest revision as of 21:19, 24 October 2024
Great Weapon Fighting is a Fighting Style passive feature.
Description
When you roll a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack with a Two-Handed melee weapon, that die is rerolled once.
How to learn
Classes:
Used by creatures: Flaming Fist Guisarmier, Oathbreaker Knight, Ulder Ravengard, Watchman, and Zealot of the Absolute
Notes
- This also applies to Versatile weapons when off-hand is empty.
- Unlike in 5th Edition rules, added damage dice from sources like Superiority Dice,
, and a 
Fire or 
Simple Toxin-dipped weapon may also be rerolled. - This feature increases the average of a "Dx" (a dice with x sides) by 1 - 2/x, e.g. by 0.5 for a D4, by 0.833... for a D12, and so on.
- When used in combination with Savage Attacker, Great Weapon Fighting is applied before selecting the highest damage roll. It will do a first roll and reroll if it's a 1 or 2, and then roll one more time and use the highest result.
- The tooltip is showing 3-4 rolls but it appears to be a bug as of patch 6.
Math[edit | edit source]
Average bonus damage of Great Weapon Fighting alone[edit | edit source]
| Damage dice | Average bonus damage | Average damage roll |
|---|---|---|
| 1d4 | 0.50 | 3 |
| 1d6 | 0.67 | 4.17 |
| 1d8 | 0.75 | 5.25 |
| 1d10 | 0.8 | 6.30 |
| 1d12 | 0.83 | 7.33 |
| 2d6 | 1.33 | 8.33 |
If we compare to the 2 bonus damage of Duelling fighting style, at least a few damage dice need to be rolled for this feat to be equivalent or better. For example using the Halberd of Vigilance dipped in fire, this feat would on average add 2 x 0.5 + 0.8 = 1.8 bonus damage. If it is a critical strike it would add 3.6 bonus damage on average.
Average bonus damage of Great Weapon Fighting with Savage Attacker (or Brace)[edit | edit source]
| Damage dice | Average bonus damage | Average damage roll | Average bonus damage added by Great Weapon Fighting | Average bonus damage added by Savage Attacker |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1d4 | 0.88 | 3.38 | 0.25 | 0.38 |
| 1d6 | 1.27 | 4.77 | 0.30 | 0.60 |
| 1d8 | 1.63 | 6.13 | 0.31 | 0.88 |
| 1d10 | 1.97 | 7.47 | 0.32 | 1.17 |
| 1d12 | 2.31 | 8.81 | 0.32 | 1.48 |
| 2d6 | 2.54 | 9.54 | 0.59 | 1.20 |
Comparing with the 2 bonus damage of Duelling fighting style, at least 6 damage dice need to be rolled to be equivalent or better.
This fighting style is less efficient when used in combination with Savage Attacker but it can still be worth taking if :
- Many damage dice are rolled, which can be achieved with e.g Divine Strike and/or when building characters based on Critical Strikes.
- Someone wants to take another feat than Savage Attacker whose efficiency is slightly reduced by using Great Weapon Fighting instead (0.25 to 0.5 less bonus average damage, or 50% to 25% less bonus average damage for a d4 to d12 die)
- There are no better fighting style to pick anyway.
Average bonus damage of Great Weapon Fighting with Savage Attacker and Brace[edit | edit source]
This feat average bonus damage is even lower when used with Brace and Savage Attacker : ~0.16 damage / die. However Brace can only be used once per short rest so it could still be worth taking.