bg3wiki talk:Ads Announcement 1: Difference between revisions

:Hi Kelpto,

:Your opinion is valuable to me, but the vast majority of people seem to see it differently. In most people's eyes, I seem to have demonstrated my commitment to making and keeping bg3.wiki a great resource, and I hope you'll eventually be convinced too. As a logged in user, you won't even see ads, so this change will basically not affect you at all. (I suppose it might if you view the wiki from other devices on which you're not logged in, and if you don't have an ad blocker on those devices.)

:I think you misunderstood what I was trying to explain regarding preventing other sites from "ripping off" the wiki. Let me explain:

:1. The CC BY-NC-SA license, being irrevocable, grants everyone the right to create a separate wiki and host the content there, but only under the NC condition, meaning that this secondary wiki could not serve ads.

:2. Past contributors, who made their content available under the CC BY-NC-SA, have a choice regarding what additional license to grant bg3.wiki to allow monetizing the content.

:3. The main offer I will make to past contributors is that they agree to re-license their content under CC BY-SA, meaning that not only bg3.wiki but also everyone else will be allowed to monetize the content.

:4. As a secondary option, if someone says "I want ''only'' bg3.wiki to be allowed to monetize my content," then they could decide to only grant bg3.wiki a license (not a CC one) to monetize their past content. In this situation, their content would still be available to everyone else under the NC license. However, exclusively to bg3.wiki, it would also be available under an additional license that permits commercial use.

:So, there's no desire from my end to prevent other websites from copying content from bg3.wiki (which, as you've correctly pointed out, they can do under the irrevocable NC license). I don't even intend trying to prevent others from making money with content taken from bg3.wiki; that choice will belong to the past contributors who so far haven't granted anyone a license to monetize their content. To be honest, I doubt anyone will actually use the secondary option I've described above; I'm pretty sure everyone will simply agree to re-license their content to CC BY-SA, so that not only bg3.wiki but also everyone else will be allowed to monetize it. I just want to make sure people know that they have options.

:By the way, note that starting from July 20 (today), new content on bg3.wiki is released under CC BY-SA. So, I've already chosen a license for new content that explicitly ''allows'' other websites to make money with new content that appears on bg3.wiki. (Even though I don't do it myself yet! Will probably start soon though.) Just to further prove that I have no intention of claiming ownership over the content or trying to keep it just for myself in any way.

:If you're absolutely sure that you don't want to accept payment in exchange for re-licensing your content to CC BY-SA, then I will sadly have to go through your contributions and delete any that are still live. From a quick look, it doesn't look like it's all that much, so overall it shouldn't hurt the wiki. I'll only start doing it once we start serving ads though (probably start of August) and I would greatly appreciate it if you change your mind.

== "I can make a lot of money off of ads" is a terrible premise to break a promise ==